From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Matthieu Moy Subject: Re: GIT vs Other: Need argument Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:43:05 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20070417104520.GB4946@moonlight.home> <8b65902a0704170841q64fe0828mdefe78963394a616@mail.gmail.com> <200704171818.28256.andyparkins@gmail.com> <20070417173007.GV2229@spearce.org> <462521C7.2050103@softax.com.pl> <17958.19499.813637.324723@lisa.zopyra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii To: git@vger.kernel.org X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Wed Apr 18 19:43:32 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HeEBj-0000i0-7a for gcvg-git@gmane.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:43:27 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2992942AbXDRRnP (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:43:15 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S2992943AbXDRRnO (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:43:14 -0400 Received: from imag.imag.fr ([129.88.30.1]:46295 "EHLO imag.imag.fr" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S2992942AbXDRRnM (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:43:12 -0400 Received: from mail-veri.imag.fr (mail-veri.imag.fr [129.88.43.52]) by imag.imag.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l3IHh51K022493 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:43:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bauges.imag.fr ([129.88.43.5]) by mail-veri.imag.fr with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1HeEBN-0004RO-Sh; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:43:05 +0200 Received: from moy by bauges.imag.fr with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HeEBN-0002ye-QO; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:43:05 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: git@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <17958.19499.813637.324723@lisa.zopyra.com> (Bill Lear's message of "Wed\, 18 Apr 2007 11\:49\:47 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.97 (gnu/linux) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (imag.imag.fr [129.88.30.1]); Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:43:06 +0200 (CEST) X-IMAG-MailScanner-Information: Please contact IMAG DMI for more information X-IMAG-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-IMAG-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-IMAG-MailScanner-From: moy@imag.fr Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Bill Lear writes: > On Wednesday, April 18, 2007 at 09:07:55 (-0700) Linus Torvalds writes: >>... >>Actually, at this stage, I really think cogito just *complicates* git >>usage. ... > > As a relative newbie to git, I agree. At our company, we did not even > seriously consider using cogito. Just easier to jump right in to the > frosty waters. Same for me. As a beginner, I went to http://git.or.cz/, clicked "crash courses", and since I didn't find "git from scratch", I clicked "git for CVS users" (I know CVS, but haven't used it for a long time, I'm mostly a bzr user converted from GNU Arch). There, the commands are not "git something", but "cg something". Well, not always, at least. Indeed, there's still a "git blame", a reference to "git-rev-parse manpage". Then, I can't even find it in the tutorial, but somewhere, it should be mentionned to say who I am in ~/.gitconfig. So, Cogito can not be seen as "a revision control, using git as a back-end". It's definitely an additional layer, not hiding all of git. And then, comming to the mailing list, and looking at other websites, I can see git commands here and there. I started to manage branches using cogito, tried git commands related to branches, and realized that they used a totally different interface. So, cogito has probably been of a real use at the beginning, where git was said to be almost unuseable without anything else (I didn't try git at that time), but I don't think it's the case anymore. -- Matthieu