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From: Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr>
To: Andrew Wong <andrew.kw.w@gmail.com>
Cc: "git\@vger.kernel.org" <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 3/3] reset: Change the default behavior to use "--merge" during a merge
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 21:57:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <vpqeh2pd237.fsf@anie.imag.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADgNjanavxZfuXgvEAOMzPAJr9YqAvF4+ZDq9KW9aeR_PcVo-Q@mail.gmail.com> (Andrew Wong's message of "Wed, 26 Feb 2014 15:15:30 -0500")

Andrew Wong <andrew.kw.w@gmail.com> writes:

> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Matthieu Moy
> <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr> wrote:
>> But this breaks backward compatibility.
>>
>> I sometimes run "git reset" during a merge to only reset the index and
>> then examine the changes introduced by the merge. With your changes,
>> someone doing so would abort the merge and discard the merge resolution.
>> I very rarely do this, but even rarely, I wouldn't like Git to start
>> droping data silently for me ;-).
>
> I don't think it's actually dropping data though, because your changes just
> come from "git merge". So you can also do the merge again.

But you can't repeat your merge conflicts resolution.

> To examine the changes, you're saying you'd do "git reset && git diff". But
> without doing "git reset", couldn't you do "git diff HEAD" to get the
> diff?

I could. The point is, sometimes I don't.

If you were to design "git reset"'s interface from scratch, your
proposal would make sense. But we're talking about a change, and you
can't expect that users never use the current behavior. At the very
least, there should be a warning telling the user that the behavior
changed, and I'm really afraid that the warning goes along the lines of
"I've thought you'd prefer me to discard your unsaved changes, please
rewrite them if you actually didn't want me to".

>> I'm not really convinced that this is such a good change, and if we go
>> this way, there should be a transition to let users stop using
>> argumentless "git reset" to reset the index during a merge.
>
> Yeah, this breaks compatibility, but like I said, during a merge, I don't
> see a good reason to do "git reset --mixed",

The point with backward compatibility is not to know whether users have
a good reason to, but whether you can guarantee that no one ever does
it.

-- 
Matthieu Moy
http://www-verimag.imag.fr/~moy/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-02-26 20:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-26 18:06 [RFC 0/3] Make git more user-friendly during a merge conflict Andrew Wong
2014-02-26 18:06 ` [RFC 1/3] wt-status: Make conflict hint message more consistent with other hints Andrew Wong
2014-02-26 20:34   ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-02-26 20:37   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-02-26 23:07     ` Andrew Wong
2014-02-26 18:06 ` [RFC 2/3] merge: Add hints to tell users about "git merge --abort" Andrew Wong
2014-02-26 20:38   ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-02-26 23:16     ` Andrew Wong
2014-03-05 15:30     ` Andrew Wong
2014-03-05 18:29       ` Junio C Hamano
2014-03-05 20:51         ` Andrew Wong
2014-03-05 21:20           ` Junio C Hamano
2014-03-05 18:35       ` Matthieu Moy
2014-02-26 18:06 ` [RFC 3/3] reset: Change the default behavior to use "--merge" during a merge Andrew Wong
2014-02-26 18:21   ` Matthieu Moy
2014-02-26 20:15     ` Andrew Wong
2014-02-26 20:48       ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-02-26 23:37         ` Andrew Wong
2014-02-26 20:57       ` Matthieu Moy [this message]
2014-02-27  0:00         ` Andrew Wong
2014-02-26 20:53     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-03-11  4:39       ` Andrew Wong
2014-02-26 20:26 ` [RFC 0/3] Make git more user-friendly during a merge conflict Jonathan Nieder
2014-02-28  9:01   ` Stephen Leake
2014-02-28  9:14     ` Charles Bailey
2014-02-28 10:11     ` David Kastrup
2014-02-28 14:13       ` Stephen Leake
2014-02-28 14:21         ` David Kastrup
2014-02-28 17:26           ` Stephen Leake
2014-02-28 17:33             ` David Kastrup
2014-03-01 10:32               ` Stephen Leake
2014-03-01 11:38                 ` Matthieu Moy
2014-03-01 16:50                   ` Stephen Leake

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