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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Derrick Stolee <dstolee@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] gitfaq: add entry about syncing working trees
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 14:09:02 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.2110201403420.56@tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211020010624.675562-6-sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>

Hi brian,

On Wed, 20 Oct 2021, brian m. carlson wrote:

> Users very commonly want to sync their working tree across machines,

I was confused at first, because I do sync my working trees frequently. I
do this via `git push` and `git pull`, though.

Maybe clarify that you mean rsync, or sync services like DropBox and
OneDrive? I see that you mention "cloud syncing service" below, but I
believe that it might be better to lead with the examples.

> often to carry across in-progress work or stashes.  Despite this not
> being a recommended approach, users want to do it and are not dissuaded
> by suggestions not to, so let's recommend a sensible technique.
>
> The technique that many users are using is their preferred cloud syncing
> service, which is a bad idea.  Users have reported problems where they
> end up with duplicate files that won't go away (with names like "file.c
> 2"), broken references, oddly named references that have date stamps
> appended to them, missing objects, and general corruption and data loss.
> That's because almost all of these tools sync file by file, which is a
> great technique if your project is a single word processing document or
> spreadsheet, but is utterly abysmal for Git repositories because they
> don't necessarily snapshot the entire repository correctly.  They also
> tend to sync the files immediately instead of when the repository is
> quiescent, so writing multiple files, as occurs during a commit or a gc,
> can confuse the tools and lead to corruption.
>
> We know that the old standby, rsync, is up to the task, provided that
> the repository is quiescent, so let's suggest that and dissuade people
> from using cloud syncing tools.  Let's tell people about common things
> they should be aware of before doing this and that this is still
> potentially risky.  Additionally, let's tell people that Git's security
> model does not permit sharing working trees across users in case they
> planned to do that.  While we'd still prefer users didn't try to do
> this, hopefully this will lead them in a safer direction.

The remainder of the commit message is very clear.

Thank you,
Dscho

      parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-20 12:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-20  1:06 [PATCH 0/4] Additional FAQ entries brian m. carlson
2021-10-20  1:06 ` [PATCH 1/4] gitfaq: add advice on monorepos brian m. carlson
2021-10-20  4:45   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-10-20 10:54   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-20 21:19     ` brian m. carlson
2021-10-20 11:55   ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-20 14:11   ` Philip Oakley
2021-10-20 22:22     ` brian m. carlson
2021-10-25 10:44       ` Philip Oakley
2021-10-20  1:06 ` [PATCH 2/4] gitfaq: add documentation on proxies brian m. carlson
2021-10-20 11:57   ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-20 22:17     ` brian m. carlson
2021-10-20 14:48   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-20 22:19     ` brian m. carlson
2021-10-20  1:06 ` [PATCH 3/4] gitfaq: give advice on using eol attribute in gitattributes brian m. carlson
2021-10-20  1:21   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-10-20  1:27     ` brian m. carlson
2021-10-20 12:02       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-20 22:25         ` brian m. carlson
2021-10-21 12:02           ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-20  1:06 ` [PATCH 4/4] doc: add a FAQ entry about syncing working trees brian m. carlson
2021-10-20  4:58   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-10-20 14:05     ` Philip Oakley
2021-10-20 23:35   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-21  0:03     ` brian m. carlson
2021-10-21  0:33       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-20  1:06 ` [PATCH 4/4] gitfaq: add " brian m. carlson
2021-10-20  1:38   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-10-20 21:36     ` brian m. carlson
2021-10-20 12:09   ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]

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