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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Johannes Sixt <j6t@kdbg.org>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/7] Drop support for git rebase --preserve-merges
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 19:33:52 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.2109071930080.55@tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4e998676-4975-8ac2-35a0-34416938b62e@kdbg.org>

Hi Hannes,

On Thu, 2 Sep 2021, Johannes Sixt wrote:

> Am 02.09.21 um 16:18 schrieb Johannes Schindelin:
> > On Wed, 1 Sep 2021, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> >> A good goal.  There is no remaining use case where (a fictitious and
> >> properly working version of) "--preserve-merges" option cannot be
> >> replaced by "--rebase-merges", is it?  I somehow had a feeling that
> >> the other Johannes (sorry if it weren't you, j6t) had cases that the
> >> former worked better, but perhaps I am mis-remembering things.
> >
> > I think that I managed to address whatever concerns there were about the
> > `--rebase-merges` backend in the meantime.
>
> That was either my suggestion/desire to make no-rebase-cousins the
> default. That has been settled.
>
> Or my wish not to redo the merge, but to replay the first-parent
> difference. The idea never got traction, and I've long since abandoned
> my implementation of it.

Thank you for clarifying.

Yes, I remember how that idea came up, and I even tried that strategy for
a couple of merging rebases of Git for Windows' branch thicket. Sadly, it
did not work half as well as I had hoped.

The best idea I had back then still is in want of being implemented: sort
of a "four-way merge". It is basically the same as a three-way merge, but
allows for the pre-images to differ in the context (and yes, this cannot
be represented using the current conflict markers). Definitely not
trivial.

> > To be honest, I developed one (minor) concern in the meantime... Should we
> > maybe try to be nicer to our users and keep handling the
> > `--preserve-merges` option by explicitly erroring out with the suggestion
> > to use `--rebase-merges` instead? Not everybody reads release notes, after
> > all. In fact, it is my experience that preciously few users have the time
> > to even skim release notes...
>
> A valid concern, I would think.

Good. Since you concur with my hunch, I implemented that change.

Thank you for reviewing,
Dscho

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-07 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-23 20:50 [PATCH 0/8] Drop support for git rebase --preserve-merges Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-11-23 20:50 ` [PATCH 1/8] t5520: do not use `pull.rebase=preserve` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-11-23 20:50 ` [PATCH 2/8] remote: warn about unhandled branch.<name>.rebase values Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-11-23 20:50 ` [PATCH 3/8] tests: stop testing `git rebase --preserve-merges` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-11-23 20:50 ` [PATCH 4/8] pull: remove support for `--rebase=preserve` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-11-23 20:50 ` [PATCH 5/8] rebase: drop support for `--preserve-merges` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-11-23 20:50 ` [PATCH 6/8] git-svn: " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-11-23 22:08   ` Eric Wong
2019-11-24 21:29     ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-11-25  3:15       ` Eric Wong
2019-11-23 20:50 ` [PATCH 7/8] rebase: drop the internal `rebase--interactive` command Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2019-11-23 20:50 ` [PATCH 8/8] remote: no longer claim that branch.*.rebase=preserve is a thing Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 11:57 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] Drop support for git rebase --preserve-merges Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 11:57   ` [PATCH v2 1/7] t5520: do not use `pull.rebase=preserve` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 11:57   ` [PATCH v2 2/7] remote: warn about unhandled branch.<name>.rebase values Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 11:57   ` [PATCH v2 3/7] tests: stop testing `git rebase --preserve-merges` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 13:26     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-01 11:57   ` [PATCH v2 4/7] pull: remove support for `--rebase=preserve` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 11:57   ` [PATCH v2 5/7] rebase: drop support for `--preserve-merges` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 12:21     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-02 13:54       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-02 14:11         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-01 13:33     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-02 13:59       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-02 14:16         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-02 14:28     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-02 14:34     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-02 14:56       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-02 15:34         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-04 19:41       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-05  7:32         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-05 22:36           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-06 10:15     ` Phillip Wood
2021-09-07 12:32       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-07 15:31         ` Phillip Wood
2021-09-07 19:44           ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-01 11:57   ` [PATCH v2 6/7] git-svn: " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 13:25     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-02 14:00       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-02 14:08       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-01 11:57   ` [PATCH v2 7/7] rebase: drop the internal `rebase--interactive` command Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06 10:10     ` Phillip Wood
2021-09-07 12:39       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-01 13:37   ` [PATCH v2 0/7] Drop support for git rebase --preserve-merges Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-02 14:16     ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-02 14:51       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-01 22:25   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-02 14:18     ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-02 20:06       ` Johannes Sixt
2021-09-07 17:33         ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2021-09-07 22:48           ` Elijah Newren
2021-09-10 12:08             ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-10 17:16               ` Elijah Newren
2021-09-13 11:24                 ` merge-ort and --rebase-merges, was " Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-13 15:53                   ` Elijah Newren
2021-09-06  6:58     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-07 18:27       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-07 19:52         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-04 22:30   ` Alban Gruin
2021-09-06 10:17     ` Phillip Wood
2021-09-07 12:48     ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-07 21:05   ` [PATCH v3 00/11] " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 21:05     ` [PATCH v3 01/11] t5520: do not use `pull.rebase=preserve` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 21:05     ` [PATCH v3 02/11] remote: warn about unhandled branch.<name>.rebase values Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 21:05     ` [PATCH v3 03/11] tests: stop testing `git rebase --preserve-merges` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 21:05     ` [PATCH v3 04/11] pull: remove support for `--rebase=preserve` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 21:05     ` [PATCH v3 05/11] rebase: drop support for `--preserve-merges` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-10 14:53       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-21 19:02       ` re-mentioning --preserve-merges in the docs (was: [PATCH v3 05/11] rebase: drop support for `--preserve-merges`) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-21 20:15         ` re-mentioning --preserve-merges in the docs Junio C Hamano
2022-07-29 13:24           ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-09-07 21:05     ` [PATCH v3 06/11] git-svn: drop support for `--preserve-merges` Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 21:05     ` [PATCH v3 07/11] rebase: drop the internal `rebase--interactive` command Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 21:05     ` [PATCH v3 08/11] rebase: remove obsolete code comment Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 21:05     ` [PATCH v3 09/11] rebase: stop mentioning the -p option in comments Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 21:05     ` [PATCH v3 10/11] rebase: remove a no-longer-used function Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07 21:05     ` [PATCH v3 11/11] sequencer: restrict scope of a formerly public function Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-09-08  1:30     ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Drop support for git rebase --preserve-merges Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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