From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,MALFORMED_FREEMAIL, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B3B1F4B4 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 2021 15:57:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727041AbhASPyl (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Jan 2021 10:54:41 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:56727 "EHLO mout.gmx.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S2389924AbhASPyL (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Jan 2021 10:54:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1611071549; bh=A9XEnbb37iHyB3KVH2pt41sIfse6E0jo/iGVmAn59nI=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=NEVzUVi0a/Ppd7SjJdXWAXnhQdc9ufNy8gb5q2UBdD1qiNK7Rk6JDv958cUG4AC5x 140apCfP6aHPyNI6t176sAWfc8Xr/I1rgTdRFzFzebTyStCqIwZUa347raMJJ1eTsQ WRztf5+mdCVw2TONo5RsPK0llqrx7q0hyPQb/D64= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [172.25.115.203] ([89.1.213.153]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MNswE-1lQBTo49Q8-00OJAO; Tue, 19 Jan 2021 16:52:29 +0100 Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2021 16:52:26 +0100 (CET) From: Johannes Schindelin X-X-Sender: virtualbox@gitforwindows.org To: Junio C Hamano cc: Jeff King , Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget , git@vger.kernel.org, =?UTF-8?Q?Nguy=E1=BB=85n_Th=C3=A1i_Ng=E1=BB=8Dc_Duy?= , =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=86var_Arnfj=C3=B6r=C3=B0?= , =?UTF-8?Q?SZEDER_G=C3=A1bor?= Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/11] sha1dc: mark forgotten message for translation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <8f2c08474a75793c24af7d4ae44d73d2b23920bc.1610441263.git.gitgitgadget@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.1 (DEB 209 2017-03-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:xrKU8XZwrsnHxHeEY/puYhf5tPW/QbowqhPPPUEBc9Z8ATs4b4A uxqNqKojMohuFVhfda+yiYzIBMGX4AZalaG//uNXphR8O6X+8ZqCxRy1t2qaw/8FOTLxsmv dENYUkSNW+z6EsK2MlI9DiVMDklZAu+/FLqD490NbwCm7BUbXqSz0UeprW1mwJZU33tEK+X vxIaLQ5Ihi3aVWXAMeJQg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:VM1JSbyBmxs=:pHT0D3gv5ipe0e0Kd7U65L NpqEzo0XuHuQ27GBrFzpsHqLmZawu1jmG2FlI8y69YMKHrUKp5UFi4bMiZl7G3OGwhId8sh5B YvTIrw3+OkTm24eAouEWt8Kz8Nc1AqSgSz6cti41MXZgomHMEALiNfZ7YZgqvRBWuhAXP0MtP 62MKJp0rFOd6DLngst6mlJuCZkF2LrpnDh1t87XUrgr2nDkEPkdav/UEfBz4Jkmb+TxWSjkEx BgdvY/4CLdh5Fm6ZOFFYlHn+vS1Wujx1YUPeVbZdrQ5VVmFcQGwJ9AVarA2PCkxjas5OwUNQg nwWFmGsJNlu6V8ZbdP3G1es2TXEaEXZk7YJs7gQgvSbCLgpwdfE0wc2fCCGqjGSE79IMUv+/u bfOruvr0cxE5JPGAFjIkGM62CJ/UXhznawosSvnJ+Fquj2xZeyGzdEa7ZkjS5t+t8W4lFpv94 2hI2PeorLJG9ffAEYcfQR6J9+ULIWB8lrc/n8Ivh7YINyRqmehLmFO+XPpwgfImzGcLBnk8Pf sHyWBJ3T6yvJZRDah19WtYkk22tm62I+tmOCkHH9vJCvqPzUJ5pMbIUl1Q5QPcW9LpS76SCOO dOeILGexWbSdp9GLKJWCBEogtDFpYiNnfeEn1My4fH0bMhrJU4Z6cEwsljDX944+vkXvrfDtQ ZGcJyHyUvwicSnQ0NrxJN20ap0ys4/29AuMfv1BzzmT0cKfzMx07jyvR2UmBlBlId+CywvuTe rSD1Rx9RToyKU3pjc3nLlgWvFCHoVOaHEfxEXzqsIdmWz914XI8soTJ+/qjxfu/VlaqO3YSc+ cbDRpm1RPKgS3NJ4xz79oyW+vOblEToc1ktpl0NtPB9OwtqmL8WkfJhvZvK/A6PyV/6gnU6np VxosUBlAp0GeRaFjGrl9BeF26s88GS0keEQ4M9yjFHg7yYQR+wEk33nOaiYmEJ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Hi Junio, On Mon, 18 Jan 2021, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Johannes Schindelin writes: > > >> That's what I was getting at. The audience is really Git developers, > >> just like it would be for a BUG(). We don't expect either of those > >> things to happen. > > > > While a SHA-1 collision might not be anything we expect to happen, I a= m > > fairly certain it won't be a bug in Git causing it. Nor will it be > > anything that core Git developers have to react on. For those reasons,= I > > disagree that core Git developers are the target audience of this mess= age. > > I do not know if this is what Peff meant by "the audience is really > Git developers", but when any end-user encounters this message, we > want to learn about it a lot more urgently than all the ordinary > "there is no such command line option", so in that sense, even it > is not "a bug in git", it is more special than ordinary errors. I suggest that we modify the message to state exactly that: "Please contact the Git mailing list at git@vger.kernel.org about this". And then mark the message for translation, so that even Git users with low/no knowledge of the English language are in a position to help us. Ciao, Dscho P.S.: Yes, I realize that this means we could receive a message reporting a SHA-1 collision written in, say, Chinese. Is this a problem? I don't think so. In any case, this would still be much better than keeping the message untranslated and _not_ receiving a mail about it.