From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.2 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A961F66F for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 00:04:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726687AbgKSAA3 (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Nov 2020 19:00:29 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:55473 "EHLO mout.gmx.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725947AbgKSAA2 (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Nov 2020 19:00:28 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1605744003; bh=4upwBoRBvqzqO5Pxd/DwL6aZoJIkJFzvRAD6XihKl5g=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=laSQo+0J6jHa3vB9+D4kmG6BaOcOy/v6SNirZjj3N6kX8YdqyByJMArz/qcD1W6Hh jRf880cdO71BeMFhVjmolkflIJgSkfMMUCfr5JcqJx0m6E3wu/YpH/rZ53Xrx2cV9A skzPh9KU7Sc2OIa5PeSthz3YGkyV0vdo8omFIuqo= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [172.26.22.105] ([213.196.212.61]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MYNNy-1kkVTV2nFS-00VSJC; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 01:00:03 +0100 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 01:00:02 +0100 (CET) From: Johannes Schindelin X-X-Sender: virtualbox@gitforwindows.org To: Philip Oakley cc: Junio C Hamano , "Eric W. Biederman" , Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget , git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/28] Use main as default branch name In-Reply-To: <1389dabc-33c9-1e65-a3de-43729a6c2e70@iee.email> Message-ID: References: <87r1oraewl.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> <1389dabc-33c9-1e65-a3de-43729a6c2e70@iee.email> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.1 (DEB 209 2017-03-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:YvhktWurYR4dldBHP7UG/sfiS7GNBJxS5YYQ7tNe6oi8g8iCAu+ xvBuyp+0G7TNTQOMWgumbYUVbfUN0xwhARKD6iG30SHqOPi8LsmyOWtRsM1D9YQmRl3QrE6 rv/k5yh6xwj1WTiAPXUbFGRPLJCRLv/gVVZ5NqQ+zyvebqq6d4vZGxOX3GWI3IjiTqi07sz bG14ZxER+ERrX5WnF3ImA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:8WQfjN/7zbc=:BM2kBheh8ikseQwek3MG4E nqaY8zkY4+C5Krdo2wvH10CYlF94OpFE1px/7uk5kP1qx8U1b45UIgAnfGR4mxODqBD1DiPB5 DgWlykj5r5GaXNgVn1gJ/79WQFZSTE4vZ/EWJOXGJOwoOFWFASadlfPNn1D5qX67fqK/wCJVo snHeufP3zmHz4StpgccRkO21yNVIAE4jKl83vet1fxnqc9hLMg78Qb9DyRZRKEscuqnmPFoLB Mrg0HPSvYJo3Wq2qLFawvXAHEZZHUQ4Jt6qYGSioQ3+985UfzcTpld6naQ3i9yn8WlM/8zyIs z7qS0npBsTymDbRzk6zZcPM3xdcAWsZ0H2kCmlCOEvN4XGq+NXXn2qrZEd2k2as6VvLFWTi9a oLxvgOIatLqbICqerzl0VL5jQyxBNO4tkp/AX64TL+RfggVprgS8hbkZePFFHwA2If3BrkI+i kY1ooiVQrVU6VuvRHberMWr1k7qd4cjsl+PK34Gx2Jncso26cOVOFNctytKFpuNP+czhyDoTj igglOg9u3bp9HS+SdRkn2wu9BcKNDZZ7iaiec+zP8rRSqq+m44CjFqVql4D1elXehaG4sLNJ+ lXj//EDjKOs7N5sH3H7pNfCcOItSqNIEpMh0d8OPNm1JH1BtxvZZwVPml4U59cZp4WHJMHxGh +OTQX+zgERRAiaKHLT3POkQwIlNZnlOWlRpm01ljIU9aNCafplhHO8ihi3+2WncbuUs22pHXT TEJJ8FzhBvSO7Rq6AchGhRiP0wUDCah3QWfmLbd8ScKEP1cG7xQsSA2BB0KsLAyOhxatDIgKw 3wn6dNd2TVK+OO5LA4uHcCMKwMiTi6fJsJ4Yy1O6d9xEKvgPK04EiazFVsuIykcQ9r0DfNd7d AErZhfWbXLNi2ZbkDXZbBC3ddNG1KLwN0OSu86n3Q= Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Hi Philip, On Wed, 18 Nov 2020, Philip Oakley wrote: > An alternative in the other direction is to go with the 'not currently > on any branch' (detached at nowhere) but then require users to > deliberately create their first branch with their chosen name. This > moves the 'backward incompatibility' to a different place, which may be > easier to manage. It might be easier to manage for _us_, the Git developers. But every user who initializes a repository and wants to push now needs to take the extra step to give their unnamed branch ("detached HEAD" is _still_ confusing new users!!!) a name. That would be much more disruptive than choosing a "rather dull and boring" name instead of a rather racially-charged one. And we promised to try to minimize the disruption to Git users. Ciao, Dscho