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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Edward Thomson <ethomson@edwardthomson.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] setup: warn about un-enabled extensions
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 22:30:12 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.2007142227280.52@tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18c65b85-2f2a-ff96-1ea7-e16befa6928f@gmail.com>

Hi,

On Tue, 14 Jul 2020, Derrick Stolee wrote:

> On 7/14/2020 11:27 AM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> > Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> writes:
> >
> >>> If you don't mind, I was already going to squash Junio's commit into
> >>> mine (almost completely replacing mine) but I could add a small
> >>> commit on top that provides the following improvement to the error
> >>> message:
> >>
> >> I don't mind at all. I'd just like to know that v2.28.0 avoids confusing
> >> users in the same was as v2.28.0-rc0 confused me.
> >
> > In a nearby thread, Jonathan Nieder raised an interesting approach
> > to avoid confusing users, which I think (if I am reading him
> > correctly) makes sense (cf. <20200714040616.GA2208896@google.com>)
> >
> > What if we accept the extensions the code before the topic in
> > question that was merged in -rc0 introduced the "confusion" accepts
> > even in v0?  If we see extensions other than those handpicked and
> > grandfathered ones (which are presumably the ones we add later and
> > support in v1 and later repository versions) in a v0 repository, we
> > keep ignoring.  Also we'd loosen the overly strict code that
> > prevents upgrading from v0 to v1 in the presence of any extensions
> > in -rc0, so that the grandfathered ones will not prevent the
> > upgrading.
> >
> > The original reasoning behind the strict check was because the users
> > could have used extensions.frotz for their own use with their own
> > meaning, trusting that Git would simply ignore it, and an upgrade to
> > later version in which Git uses extensions.frotz for a purpose that
> > is unrelated to the reason why these users used would just break the
> > repository.
> >
> > But the ones that were (accidentally) honored in v0 couldn't have
> > been used by the users for the purposes other than how Git would use
> > them anyway, so there is no point to make them prevent the upgrade
> > of the repository version from v0 to v1.
> >
> > At least, that is how I understood the world would look like in
> > Jonathan's "different endgame".
> >
> > What do you three (Dscho, Derrick and Jonathan) think?
>
> If "v0" includes "core.repositoryFormatVersion is unset" then I
> would consider this to be a way to avoid all user pain, which is
> positive.

I concur.

> I'd be happy to test and review a patch that accomplishes this
> goal.

Wouldn't that just be a matter of extending your patch to re-set
`has_unhandled_extensions` also for `preciousObjects` and `partialClone`?

Ciao,
Dscho

>
> CC'ing Ed Thomson because this extension stuff affects other tools,
> like libgit2.
>
> Thanks,
> -Stolee
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-14 20:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-13 21:55 [PATCH] setup: warn about un-enabled extensions Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-07-13 22:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-14  0:24 ` Derrick Stolee
2020-07-14 12:21   ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-07-14 15:27     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-14 15:40       ` Derrick Stolee
2020-07-14 20:30         ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2020-07-14 20:47           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-15 16:09       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-15 17:01         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-15 18:00           ` Derrick Stolee
2020-07-15 18:09             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-15 18:40               ` Derrick Stolee
2020-07-15 19:16                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-07-15 18:15             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-15 19:21               ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-07-15 18:20         ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-07-16  2:06           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-16  6:20         ` [PATCH 0/2] extensions.* fixes for 2.28 (Re: [PATCH] setup: warn about un-enabled extensions) Jonathan Nieder
2020-07-16  6:24           ` [PATCH 1/2] Revert "check_repository_format_gently(): refuse extensions for old repositories" Jonathan Nieder
2020-07-16 10:56             ` Jeff King
2020-07-16  6:28           ` [PATCH 2/2] repository: allow repository format upgrade with extensions Jonathan Nieder
2020-07-16  7:01             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-16 11:00               ` Jeff King
2020-07-16 12:25                 ` Jeff King
2020-07-16 12:53                   ` Derrick Stolee
2020-07-16 16:32                   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-16 16:53                     ` Jeff King
2020-07-16 20:27                     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-16 16:49                   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-16 16:56                     ` Jeff King
2020-07-16 16:10                 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-16 22:37                   ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-07-16 23:50                     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-17 15:27                       ` Jeff King
2020-07-17 17:07                         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-17 15:22                     ` Jeff King
2020-07-16  8:13           ` [PATCH 0/2] extensions.* fixes for 2.28 (Re: [PATCH] setup: warn about un-enabled extensions) Johannes Schindelin
2020-07-16 12:17             ` Derrick Stolee

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