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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>,
	Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>,
	Ramsay Jones <ramsay@ramsayjones.plus.com>,
	gitgitgadget@gmail.com, Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] Consolidate reachability logic
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 18:37:42 +0200 (DST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.1807191834390.71@tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <afc090ea-840d-6c27-d6d0-2202914f1ccf@gmail.com>

Hi Stolee,

On Wed, 18 Jul 2018, Derrick Stolee wrote:

> On 7/18/2018 1:01 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> > No, fixing a tool that throws such a harder-to-read patch series in
> > reader's mailbox is *not* something I'd spend my primary focus on,
> > especially when many contributors are perfectly capable of sending
> > reasonably formatted series without using such a tool under
> > development.
> >
> > That won't stop those who want to improve the tool.  But I'd wish
> > those who want to make Git better spend their time on making Git,
> > over making GitGitGadget, better.
> 
> I appreciate the feedback in how this series caused reviewer pain. Hopefully
> this date issue is now resolved. Any further feedback is welcome.
> 
> I'm choosing to use and contribute to GitGitGadget not because I'm incapable
> of sending series myself, but because I _have_ had difficulty. Using the email
> submissions creates a friction that I'm willing to overcome, but we are
> probably missing out on contributors who are not willing to push through that
> friction. Perhaps having another way for new contributors to feel welcome is
> an indirect way to make Git better.

While I am a seasoned Git contributor, it is *still* too painful to
contribute patches *even for me*.

So hopefully you and I will get this easier contribution process to the
point where other oldtimers do not want to take it.

At least we now have something that does not share the downsides with
SubmitGit, and is extensible enough that we can teach it new tricks.

With a little luck, Junio will fix amlog so that it is not utter garbage
for anybody but himself, and then GitGitGadget can give contributors
useful feedback about the state of their patch series, including automated
notifications when their patches have been mentioned in the What's Cooking
mail (which no irregular contributor reads, as far as I know).

Ciao,
Dscho

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-19 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-16 13:00 [PATCH 00/16] Consolidate reachability logic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-06-19 20:25 ` [PATCH 04/16] upload-pack: make reachable() more generic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-06-19 20:35 ` [PATCH 05/16] upload-pack: refactor ok_to_give_up() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-06-25 17:16 ` [PATCH 01/16] commit-reach: move walk methods from commit.c Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 18:57   ` Stefan Beller
2018-07-16 21:31   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-25 17:35 ` [PATCH 02/16] commit-reach: move ref_newer from remote.c Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 19:10   ` Stefan Beller
2018-06-25 18:01 ` [PATCH 03/16] commit-reach: move commit_contains from ref-filter Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 19:14   ` Stefan Beller
2018-06-28 12:31 ` [PATCH 15/16] commit-reach: make can_all_from_reach... linear Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 22:37   ` Stefan Beller
2018-07-17  1:16   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-10-01 19:16   ` René Scharfe
2018-10-01 19:26     ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-01 20:37       ` René Scharfe
2018-10-04 22:59         ` René Scharfe
2018-10-05 12:15           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-05 16:51           ` Jeff King
2018-10-05 18:48             ` René Scharfe
2018-10-05 19:08               ` Jeff King
2018-10-05 19:36                 ` René Scharfe
2018-10-05 19:42                   ` Jeff King
2018-10-14 14:29                     ` René Scharfe
2018-10-15 15:31                       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-15 16:26                         ` René Scharfe
2018-10-16 23:09                       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-17  8:33                       ` Jeff King
2020-11-18  2:16                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-11-18  6:54                           ` Jeff King
2020-11-18 17:47                             ` René Scharfe
2018-10-05 19:12             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-05 19:28               ` Jeff King
2018-10-05 19:42                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-05 19:44                   ` Jeff King
2018-07-12 20:47 ` [PATCH 06/16] upload-pack: generalize commit date cutoff Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 19:38   ` Stefan Beller
2018-07-18 16:04     ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-12 20:52 ` [PATCH 07/16] commit-reach: move can_all_from_reach_with_flags Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 22:37   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-07-13 14:06 ` [PATCH 08/16] test-reach: create new test tool for ref_newer Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 23:00   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-07-18 16:14     ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-13 14:28 ` [PATCH 09/16] test-reach: test in_merge_bases Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-13 14:38 ` [PATCH 10/16] test-reach: test is_descendant_of Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-13 14:51 ` [PATCH 11/16] test-reach: test get_merge_bases_many Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 21:24   ` Stefan Beller
2018-07-16 23:08   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-07-13 16:51 ` [PATCH 12/16] test-reach: test reduce_heads Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 21:30   ` Stefan Beller
2018-07-16 21:59     ` Eric Sunshine
2018-07-13 17:22 ` [PATCH 13/16] test-reach: test can_all_from_reach_with_flags Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 21:54   ` Stefan Beller
2018-07-18 16:54     ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-17  0:10   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-07-13 18:37 ` [PATCH 14/16] commit-reach: replace ref_newer logic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 22:16   ` Stefan Beller
2018-07-13 19:25 ` [PATCH 16/16] commit-reach: use can_all_from_reach Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 22:47   ` Stefan Beller
2018-07-16 13:54 ` [PATCH 00/16] Consolidate reachability logic Ramsay Jones
2018-07-16 16:18   ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 18:40     ` Eric Sunshine
2018-07-16 18:56       ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 18:59         ` Eric Sunshine
2018-07-18 12:32           ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-07-18 12:23     ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-07-18 19:21       ` Jeff King
2018-07-19 16:34         ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-07-16 17:26   ` Stefan Beller
2018-07-16 18:44     ` Eric Sunshine
2018-07-16 18:47       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-18 12:28         ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-07-18 15:01           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-18 17:01             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-18 17:11               ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-19 16:37                 ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2018-07-19 16:32               ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-07-20 16:33 ` [PATCH v2 00/18] " Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 01/18] commit-reach: move walk methods from commit.c Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 02/18] commit.h: remove method declarations Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 03/18] commit-reach: move ref_newer from remote.c Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 04/18] commit-reach: move commit_contains from ref-filter Derrick Stolee
2018-08-28 21:24     ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-08-28 21:33       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-08-28 21:36       ` [PATCH] commit-reach: correct accidental #include of C file Jonathan Nieder
2018-08-28 21:39         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 05/18] upload-pack: make reachable() more generic Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 06/18] upload-pack: refactor ok_to_give_up() Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 07/18] upload-pack: generalize commit date cutoff Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 08/18] commit-reach: move can_all_from_reach_with_flags Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 09/18] test-reach: create new test tool for ref_newer Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 10/18] test-reach: test in_merge_bases Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 11/18] test-reach: test is_descendant_of Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 12/18] test-reach: test get_merge_bases_many Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 13/18] test-reach: test reduce_heads Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 14/18] test-reach: test can_all_from_reach_with_flags Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 15/18] test-reach: test commit_contains Derrick Stolee
2018-07-23 20:35     ` Jonathan Tan
2018-07-25 18:08       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-25 18:30         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 16/18] commit-reach: replace ref_newer logic Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 17/18] commit-reach: make can_all_from_reach... linear Derrick Stolee
2018-07-23 20:41     ` Jonathan Tan
2018-08-01 20:41       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-09-12  4:14     ` Jeff King
2018-09-12  4:29       ` Jeff King
2018-09-12 13:08         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 18/18] commit-reach: use can_all_from_reach Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 17:10   ` [PATCH v2 00/18] Consolidate reachability logic Stefan Beller
2018-07-20 17:15     ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 22:16       ` Stefan Beller
2018-08-01 20:33         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 17:18   ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 18:09     ` Eric Sunshine
2018-07-20 19:14       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 17:41   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-20 19:09     ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 22:45   ` Junio C Hamano

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