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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Ramsay Jones <ramsay@ramsayjones.plus.com>,
	Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] Consolidate reachability logic
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 18:34:09 +0200 (DST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.1807191833411.71@tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180718192128.GB7778@sigill.intra.peff.net>

Hi Peff,

On Wed, 18 Jul 2018, Jeff King wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 02:23:11PM +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> 
> > > Yeah, they're out of order in mutt's threaded display. And the
> > > back-dating means there's a much higher chance of them getting blocked
> > > as spam (e.g., some of the dates are from weeks ago).
> > > 
> > > git-send-email uses the current time minus an offset, and then
> > > monotonically increases for each patch:
> > > 
> > >   $time = time - scalar $#files;
> > >   ...
> > >   my $date = format_2822_time($time++);
> > > 
> > > which seems to work pretty well in practice. It does mean the original
> > > dates are lost. The committer date is not interesting at all (there will
> > > be a new committer via "git am" anyway). The original author date is
> > > potentially of interest, but could be included as an in-body header.
> > > AFAIK send-email doesn't have such an option, though, and people are
> > > fine with date-of-sending becoming the new author date.
> > > 
> > > +cc Johannes as the GitGitGadget author
> > 
> > Thanks for dumping even more work on my shoulders.
> 
> Wow. Here's my perspective on what I wrote.
> 
> Somebody pointed out an issue in the tool. I tried to add an additional
> data point (how other clients react, and that I've seen spam-related
> problems). And I tried to point to an existing solution in another tool,
> in case that was helpful. I thought cc-ing you would be a favor, since
> you obviously have an interest in the tool, and it is easy to miss
> discussions buried deep in a thread.
> 
> So no, I didn't write the patch for you. But I tried to contribute
> positively to the process. And I got yelled at for it. That makes me a
> lot less inclined to try to help in the future.
> 
> > Next time, I will ask you to jump in, instead of putting the onus on me.
> >
> > I mean, seriously, what is this? "You can use *any* mail program to work
> > with the Git mailing list, *any* mailer. As long as it is mutt. And as
> > long as you spend hours and hours on tooling that oh BTW nobody else can
> > use."
> 
> The irony here is that I actually _did_ look at the GitGitGadget
> repository, and thought about making a patch to be helpful. But as it is
> written in a language I'm not all that familiar with, using tools that I
> don't normally use, I didn't want to spend hours and hours in order to
> make what was probably going to be a one-line patch in software that I
> don't use myself.

I understand that. The web is not based on shell scripting, so there is no
good way to implement a bot on GitHub using Bash scripts.

Ciao,
Dscho

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-19 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-16 13:00 [PATCH 00/16] Consolidate reachability logic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-06-19 20:25 ` [PATCH 04/16] upload-pack: make reachable() more generic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-06-19 20:35 ` [PATCH 05/16] upload-pack: refactor ok_to_give_up() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-06-25 17:16 ` [PATCH 01/16] commit-reach: move walk methods from commit.c Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 18:57   ` Stefan Beller
2018-07-16 21:31   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-06-25 17:35 ` [PATCH 02/16] commit-reach: move ref_newer from remote.c Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 19:10   ` Stefan Beller
2018-06-25 18:01 ` [PATCH 03/16] commit-reach: move commit_contains from ref-filter Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 19:14   ` Stefan Beller
2018-06-28 12:31 ` [PATCH 15/16] commit-reach: make can_all_from_reach... linear Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 22:37   ` Stefan Beller
2018-07-17  1:16   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-10-01 19:16   ` René Scharfe
2018-10-01 19:26     ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-01 20:37       ` René Scharfe
2018-10-04 22:59         ` René Scharfe
2018-10-05 12:15           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-05 16:51           ` Jeff King
2018-10-05 18:48             ` René Scharfe
2018-10-05 19:08               ` Jeff King
2018-10-05 19:36                 ` René Scharfe
2018-10-05 19:42                   ` Jeff King
2018-10-14 14:29                     ` René Scharfe
2018-10-15 15:31                       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-15 16:26                         ` René Scharfe
2018-10-16 23:09                       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-17  8:33                       ` Jeff King
2020-11-18  2:16                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-11-18  6:54                           ` Jeff King
2020-11-18 17:47                             ` René Scharfe
2018-10-05 19:12             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-05 19:28               ` Jeff King
2018-10-05 19:42                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-05 19:44                   ` Jeff King
2018-07-12 20:47 ` [PATCH 06/16] upload-pack: generalize commit date cutoff Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 19:38   ` Stefan Beller
2018-07-18 16:04     ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-12 20:52 ` [PATCH 07/16] commit-reach: move can_all_from_reach_with_flags Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 22:37   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-07-13 14:06 ` [PATCH 08/16] test-reach: create new test tool for ref_newer Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 23:00   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-07-18 16:14     ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-13 14:28 ` [PATCH 09/16] test-reach: test in_merge_bases Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-13 14:38 ` [PATCH 10/16] test-reach: test is_descendant_of Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-13 14:51 ` [PATCH 11/16] test-reach: test get_merge_bases_many Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 21:24   ` Stefan Beller
2018-07-16 23:08   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-07-13 16:51 ` [PATCH 12/16] test-reach: test reduce_heads Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 21:30   ` Stefan Beller
2018-07-16 21:59     ` Eric Sunshine
2018-07-13 17:22 ` [PATCH 13/16] test-reach: test can_all_from_reach_with_flags Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 21:54   ` Stefan Beller
2018-07-18 16:54     ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-17  0:10   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-07-13 18:37 ` [PATCH 14/16] commit-reach: replace ref_newer logic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 22:16   ` Stefan Beller
2018-07-13 19:25 ` [PATCH 16/16] commit-reach: use can_all_from_reach Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-07-16 22:47   ` Stefan Beller
2018-07-16 13:54 ` [PATCH 00/16] Consolidate reachability logic Ramsay Jones
2018-07-16 16:18   ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 18:40     ` Eric Sunshine
2018-07-16 18:56       ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 18:59         ` Eric Sunshine
2018-07-18 12:32           ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-07-18 12:23     ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-07-18 19:21       ` Jeff King
2018-07-19 16:34         ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2018-07-16 17:26   ` Stefan Beller
2018-07-16 18:44     ` Eric Sunshine
2018-07-16 18:47       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-18 12:28         ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-07-18 15:01           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-18 17:01             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-18 17:11               ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-19 16:37                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-07-19 16:32               ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-07-20 16:33 ` [PATCH v2 00/18] " Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 01/18] commit-reach: move walk methods from commit.c Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 02/18] commit.h: remove method declarations Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 03/18] commit-reach: move ref_newer from remote.c Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 04/18] commit-reach: move commit_contains from ref-filter Derrick Stolee
2018-08-28 21:24     ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-08-28 21:33       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-08-28 21:36       ` [PATCH] commit-reach: correct accidental #include of C file Jonathan Nieder
2018-08-28 21:39         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 05/18] upload-pack: make reachable() more generic Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 06/18] upload-pack: refactor ok_to_give_up() Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 07/18] upload-pack: generalize commit date cutoff Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 08/18] commit-reach: move can_all_from_reach_with_flags Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 09/18] test-reach: create new test tool for ref_newer Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 10/18] test-reach: test in_merge_bases Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 11/18] test-reach: test is_descendant_of Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 12/18] test-reach: test get_merge_bases_many Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 13/18] test-reach: test reduce_heads Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 14/18] test-reach: test can_all_from_reach_with_flags Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 15/18] test-reach: test commit_contains Derrick Stolee
2018-07-23 20:35     ` Jonathan Tan
2018-07-25 18:08       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-25 18:30         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 16/18] commit-reach: replace ref_newer logic Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 17/18] commit-reach: make can_all_from_reach... linear Derrick Stolee
2018-07-23 20:41     ` Jonathan Tan
2018-08-01 20:41       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-09-12  4:14     ` Jeff King
2018-09-12  4:29       ` Jeff King
2018-09-12 13:08         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 18/18] commit-reach: use can_all_from_reach Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 17:10   ` [PATCH v2 00/18] Consolidate reachability logic Stefan Beller
2018-07-20 17:15     ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 22:16       ` Stefan Beller
2018-08-01 20:33         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 17:18   ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 18:09     ` Eric Sunshine
2018-07-20 19:14       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 17:41   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-20 19:09     ` Derrick Stolee
2018-07-20 22:45   ` Junio C Hamano

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