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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Thomas Rast" <tr@thomasrast.ch>,
	"Phil Haack" <haacked@gmail.com>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Stefan Beller" <sbeller@google.com>,
	"Jason Frey" <jfrey@redhat.com>,
	"Philip Oakley" <philipoakley@iee.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/9] t1300: remove unreasonable expectation from TODO
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 14:42:37 +0200 (DST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.1803301439000.5026@qfpub.tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180329195218.GE2939@sigill.intra.peff.net>

Hi Peff,

On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, Jeff King wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 05:18:50PM +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> 
> > In https://public-inbox.org/git/7vvc8alzat.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org/
> > a reasonable patch was made quite a bit less so by changing a test case
> > demonstrating a bug to a test case that demonstrates that we ask for too
> > much: the test case 'unsetting the last key in a section removes header'
> > now expects a future bug fix to be able to determine whether a free-form
> > comment above a section header refers to said section or not.
> > 
> > Rather than shooting for the stars (and not even getting off the
> > ground), let's start shooting for something obtainable and be reasonably
> > confident that we *can* get it.
> 
> As I said before, I'm fine with turning this test into something more
> realistic.

Good.

Of course, I worked hard to come up with a patch series, i.e. I put in
some effort to placate anybody who would be offended by my accompanying
rant.

> An obvious question is whether we should preserve the original
> unrealistic parts by splitting it: the realistic parts into one
> expect_failure (that we'd switch to expect_success by the end of this
> series), and then an unrealistic one to serve as a documentation of the
> ideal, with a comment explaining why it's unrealistic.

As stated before, I think it would be a mistake to mark up this
unrealistic example with `test_expect_failure`. We do, after all, suggest
occasionally to grep for that when somebody asks what they could work on.
And you do not want to set somebody like that up for failure by pointing
them to such a "bug".

However, I did keep the example to demonstrate the expectation that
sections with surrounding comments are kept. That was very much intended.

And the reason I did not change the unrealistic example? So that it is
easier to review in our patch-based review process, where I try to avoid
hunks that might distract from the intent of the change.

Ciao,
Dscho

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-03-30 12:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-29 15:18 [PATCH 0/9] Assorted fixes for `git config` (including the "empty sections" bug) Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-29 15:18 ` [PATCH 1/9] git_config_set: fix off-by-two Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-29 18:15   ` Stefan Beller
2018-03-29 19:41     ` Jeff King
2018-03-30 12:32       ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-30 14:15         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-03-30 16:24           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-03-30 18:44             ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-30 19:00               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-03  9:31                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-03 15:29                   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-04-03 15:47                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-08 23:12                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-03-30 16:36         ` Duy Nguyen
2018-03-30 18:53           ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-30 19:16             ` Duy Nguyen
2018-03-30 18:45         ` A potential approach to making tests faster on Windows Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-03-30 18:58           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-03-30 19:16           ` Jeff King
2018-04-03  9:49             ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-03 11:28               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-04-03 15:55                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-03 21:36               ` Eric Sunshine
2018-04-03 11:43           ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-03 13:27             ` Jeff King
2018-04-03 16:00               ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-06 21:40                 ` Jeff King
2018-04-06 21:57                   ` Stefan Beller
2018-03-29 15:18 ` [PATCH 2/9] t1300: rename it to reflect that `repo-config` was deprecated Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-29 19:42   ` Jeff King
2018-03-30 12:37     ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-29 15:18 ` [PATCH 3/9] t1300: avoid relying on a bug Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-29 19:43   ` Jeff King
2018-03-30 12:38     ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-29 15:18 ` [PATCH 4/9] t1300: remove unreasonable expectation from TODO Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-29 19:52   ` Jeff King
2018-03-29 20:45     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-03-30 12:42     ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2018-03-29 15:18 ` [PATCH 5/9] t1300: `--unset-all` can leave an empty section behind (bug) Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-29 19:54   ` Jeff King
2018-03-29 15:18 ` [PATCH 6/9] git_config_set: simplify the way the section name is remembered Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-29 15:19 ` [PATCH 7/9] git config --unset: remove empty sections (in normal situations) Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-29 21:32   ` Jeff King
2018-03-30 13:00     ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-30 13:09       ` Jeff King
2018-03-29 15:19 ` [PATCH 8/9] git_config_set: use do_config_from_file() directly Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-29 21:38   ` Jeff King
2018-03-30 13:02     ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-30 13:14       ` Jeff King
2018-03-30 14:01         ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-30 14:08           ` Jeff King
2018-03-30 19:04             ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-29 15:19 ` [PATCH 9/9] git_config_set: reuse empty sections Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-29 21:50   ` Jeff King
2018-03-30 13:15     ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-29 17:58 ` [PATCH 0/9] Assorted fixes for `git config` (including the "empty sections" bug) Stefan Beller
2018-03-30 12:14   ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-29 19:39 ` Jeff King
2018-03-30 12:35   ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-30 14:17 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-03-30 18:46   ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-03 16:27 ` [PATCH v2 00/15] " Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-03 16:28   ` [PATCH v2 01/15] git_config_set: fix off-by-two Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-03 16:28   ` [PATCH v2 02/15] t1300: rename it to reflect that `repo-config` was deprecated Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-03 16:28   ` [PATCH v2 03/15] t1300: demonstrate that --replace-all can "invent" newlines Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-03 16:28   ` [PATCH v2 04/15] config --replace-all: avoid extra line breaks Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-03 16:28   ` [PATCH v2 05/15] t1300: avoid relying on a bug Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-03 16:28   ` [PATCH v2 06/15] t1300: remove unreasonable expectation from TODO Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-03 16:28   ` [PATCH v2 07/15] t1300: `--unset-all` can leave an empty section behind (bug) Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-03 16:28   ` [PATCH v2 08/15] config: introduce an optional event stream while parsing Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-06 21:22     ` Jeff King
2018-04-09  7:35       ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-03 16:28   ` [PATCH v2 09/15] config: avoid using the global variable `store` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-06 21:23     ` Jeff King
2018-04-09  7:36       ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-03 16:28   ` [PATCH v2 10/15] config_set_store: rename some fields for consistency Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-03 16:28   ` [PATCH v2 11/15] git_config_set: do not use a state machine Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-06 21:28     ` Jeff King
2018-04-09  7:50       ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-03 16:28   ` [PATCH v2 12/15] git_config_set: make use of the config parser's event stream Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-03 16:28   ` [PATCH v2 13/15] git config --unset: remove empty sections (in the common case) Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-03 16:29   ` [PATCH v2 14/15] git_config_set: reuse empty sections Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-03 16:30   ` [PATCH v2 00/15] Assorted fixes for `git config` (including the "empty sections" bug) Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-06 21:33   ` Jeff King
2018-04-09  8:19     ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-09  8:31   ` [PATCH v3 " Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-09  8:31     ` [PATCH v3 01/15] git_config_set: fix off-by-two Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-09  8:31     ` [PATCH v3 02/15] t1300: rename it to reflect that `repo-config` was deprecated Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-09  8:31     ` [PATCH v3 03/15] t1300: demonstrate that --replace-all can "invent" newlines Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-09  8:31     ` [PATCH v3 04/15] config --replace-all: avoid extra line breaks Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-09  8:31     ` [PATCH v3 05/15] t1300: avoid relying on a bug Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-09  8:31     ` [PATCH v3 06/15] t1300: remove unreasonable expectation from TODO Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-09  8:31     ` [PATCH v3 07/15] t1300: add a few more hairy examples of sections becoming empty Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-09  8:32     ` [PATCH v3 08/15] t1300: `--unset-all` can leave an empty section behind (bug) Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-09  8:32     ` [PATCH v3 09/15] config: introduce an optional event stream while parsing Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-09  8:32     ` [PATCH v3 10/15] config: avoid using the global variable `store` Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-09  8:32     ` [PATCH v3 11/15] config_set_store: rename some fields for consistency Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-09  8:32     ` [PATCH v3 12/15] git_config_set: do not use a state machine Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-09  8:32     ` [PATCH v3 13/15] git_config_set: make use of the config parser's event stream Johannes Schindelin
2018-05-08 13:42       ` Jeff King
2018-05-08 14:00         ` Jeff King
2018-04-09  8:32     ` [PATCH v3 14/15] git config --unset: remove empty sections (in the common case) Johannes Schindelin
2018-04-09  8:32     ` [PATCH v3 15/15] git_config_set: reuse empty sections Johannes Schindelin

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