From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD shortcircuit=no autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487EB1F42D for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 11:42:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755433AbeCSLmH (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Mar 2018 07:42:07 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:52839 "EHLO mout.gmx.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755299AbeCSLmG (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Mar 2018 07:42:06 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.129] ([37.201.195.115]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MXqaN-1f9Dg41E9P-00WnVU; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 12:41:47 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 12:41:30 +0100 (STD) From: Johannes Schindelin X-X-Sender: virtualbox@MININT-6BKU6QN.europe.corp.microsoft.com To: Junio C Hamano cc: Derrick Stolee , git@vger.kernel.org, peff@peff.net, sbeller@google.com, szeder.dev@gmail.com, ramsay@ramsayjones.plus.com, git@jeffhostetler.com, Derrick Stolee Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 00/14] Serialized Git Commit Graph In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <1519698787-190494-1-git-send-email-dstolee@microsoft.com> <20180314192736.70602-1-dstolee@microsoft.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.1 (DEB 209 2017-03-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:eoMgF53AP8zcurIp7KdPhcjNakOlso3jZcaGo2nh5p0ygAOFo/W CADW5hiGTFfnWOrzt9BXN9NVPCWNA5vyApYV3joUpW5YbpnsqPVwm2a0jfxpiSptAwEEPUZ 1ucqeZEU33V6Rpa8ce0saHJgAQXAveYXewUrVMj/Ke2d1M/JUgSjvwX1gEbk7GmYsrWMrF3 7cD+10pEd0iL4YlnmOtCA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:NqYajBRcSp0=:+KlAGDJTnBAcFFd3Inc5ql 8Ly5m4VOryEjVX4THiEuwLHnzOwaaDgFByWhJDo1JBADHUqmdPfWoK/5d8DoWdqAjLtFUdrNR IYq6tBzMNJaEqFNDBuKqx4NUkmccxu86SL8xsAVDul1ECWV8Sd7xI04MOwFAGHEQLjS9oeawW v3oI/vm6/lOIExi/irEv2p83UtyB/Dv2P/APmLyDSOcCe2t/G2a4ByQsnyPXljtFtOkZ+4lb8 qaVE9C4xGuWAJBKOvc0bpneLR/1vgcEFQuN9GC0KcDJcpa7bp1uGCXD2qYkabmaqXXNwBxFvx d+5eqNXqJHbupTf7cC4NeXp1zXy1irF+N52HFtzkqzodwpnmt35sgK0IpNZ4qrHs+MSLVkrCe r/jJMVgqt+eFg/uNKwndGal8fkjLJTUFu2eCJRmir6E4T+f20swUQ8FMfCF8x9HPnf3Y9XXDX t+4xd88FM5REtXTIekwOMOqKQSRzqSzF8ApsE/YaEYLoFVT++2bdFE6c/9vYOvWo0McDzZnBg RwQAnUxumAoQ9KgiLgFCd+pxHf0/4HviHRaSjfsd6QAftaNCj9FR1DaZ+lRcnUQ06fpOviGYw Gtxa1hdXxxXNfdkIYxKc1rv0go7ehjekT0yXH0ohemvwPTZhDdRklMEgOf6YP94Ygtf/t1QUZ q7Z2hFDxKyuCr8X6KcEyy2lccxnM2/xxsUHYKXWfQJPpT24K1T4QJD9SjfvNp5+87G9MhA0pr KhLU9LFWzHUvyiV89ALxB39o7zKM1CaQ+lgohOwy8gq1gCrRfOCntFgs60E8njAP0PF5BFZAi eVXmPF42S6Zm0pdSyDlvc1kRu4+tVEJhUZFanUKpccP8jWyLEA= Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Hi Junio, On Fri, 16 Mar 2018, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Johannes Schindelin writes: > > > I understand that it is a trade-off between time you have to spend and > > that others have to spend, and since you do not scale, that trade-off > > has to be in your favor. > > That tradeoff may exist, but it does not weigh in the picture above > at all. It does, however. You frequently do not even tell the original contributor what changes you made while applying the patches. I know because I have been surprised by some of those changes, long after you merged them into `master`. And quite honestly, my time is valuable, too. So you should stop assuming that I, for one (and probably other contributors, too) compare carefully what differences exist between the local topic branch and what you chose to make of the patches. I cannot make you stop suggesting that, but I can tell you right away that I won't do that unless I *have* to. It is an inefficient use of my time. I wish you would also realize that it invariably leads to your having to "touch up" iteration after iteration because your touch-ups had not been picked up. Having said that, I can live with the status quo. I have a track record of being able to. Ciao, Dscho