From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD shortcircuit=no autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4871F42D for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 11:35:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932257AbeCSLe7 (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Mar 2018 07:34:59 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:52549 "EHLO mout.gmx.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755291AbeCSLe6 (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Mar 2018 07:34:58 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.129] ([37.201.195.115]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MC4y8-1ep3NE0GBs-008onD; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 12:34:44 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 12:34:30 +0100 (STD) From: Johannes Schindelin X-X-Sender: virtualbox@MININT-6BKU6QN.europe.corp.microsoft.com To: =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=86var_Arnfj=C3=B6r=C3=B0_Bjarmason?= cc: Linus Torvalds , Johannes Sixt , Git Mailing List , Junio C Hamano , Daniel Jacques , Steffen Prohaska , John Keeping , Stan Hu , Richard Clamp Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] Makefile: optionally symlink libexec/git-core binaries to bin/git In-Reply-To: <87efkkdwcv.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <20180313203935.5084-1-avarab@gmail.com> <20180313203935.5084-4-avarab@gmail.com> <1cabf9c0-674e-c2b3-9977-9c74b929a86d@kdbg.org> <87y3ivdkvp.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> <87efkkdwcv.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.1 (DEB 209 2017-03-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="8323329-2132141009-1521459284=:55" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:IDSTqEWajJ+ye6fHhCJkJ3mHvpH689LD9FVJo16SDN5GQ8syo+T KPjkT36ZjNMNrLNBdX7jTmrpdUx0q/3jlsgHQfwz1vPGbsE3wLzuJEBqyiBlm6GGZ40bwdN 1wz0RPZOv65xKyRL41O625rIPbgg+wOGXmK7VQ8iHnphisCvmZpcUQCyqLDMlP7rD7ixAxh mvpVdxWLYAdW62F9aTQ4A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:waD1R8PGpYA=:iodpnXPNUM2HdQBRDWu7X9 HWRvtUSsrmJl8GczgUYKEWTLsIGGyla07z3ni4zyhuMPr9TgDzsTcGyqZ1bqWHQotv4/5VL22 NWjeQ3IOVZHugEUdSgVdNpPAGs7x1PaxsVI6oWzB0qaIasyvlF7LMuR7NDJpTvnpYHApxhh5r jWfrs4xMPpb1OC9967j8SDwUgdsAmXyMCf1keqVFKuTSMfsfF05etmpEovDNZlW7DoAwC5xEn QL/DsEtxz05GAFlK6ylxP1DX5a/2BFHWE2QA6C/RS0z2JMFAG2xQPr6Z2NBmXlv98M2zhZMmz v1Cz8TGMonnJ8b0lR5nSLJN6uMkELk7UKdFToSU1B4iyW3hFry8sSbguBNuSVvJPX3fre2jB3 Voh4fReg2PSWZtkIygtLhkZ95JW4pS4lfHTSeY0jVliNIGe4R9ZoGxG+EP40E4JU5oH2Z6Fwy SFkrWikhgWH6DUbTzuUx0C8fwdKkEaGItsMtLih7nX2yLrQnxte1dCfi3IPrPRA2pscDSYgST X8Dj8nQP/l9XXHZ5xhAzwA15yJtBnT10OjfPrgIX1fDRzztxsaKX/+4YSL+abV3OU+mz+yZD2 Ty/BUaeGWYBVbeOXKuUA0FTzOz+JHUAbt74sFqrVUB6kVYXE8fa7cWJ+YUTN9cfJHYbZ1/MtH xsvttLf3xD84lRv3RaPCSaX3URq6yoP0LXFrgKEbcaIC6zlSvRPHCwtTWZSXgag5Pc+NUIho4 fPL2gNkAZfR5Fd8w/bkT6bo+fiVqmIrPYXBsIxXzYqJ3AD8dzZ+UwRyzdpohtV9dkxEbZEDYE hFF0na2fWEIRjLRkv8ulpvHtCjaud0lw4B2AGSeuTO9VKTMS5s= Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323329-2132141009-1521459284=:55 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hi =C3=86var, On Fri, 16 Mar 2018, =C3=86var Arnfj=C3=B6r=C3=B0 Bjarmason wrote: >=20 > On Fri, Mar 16 2018, Johannes Schindelin jotted: >=20 > > On Thu, 15 Mar 2018, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > >> We do end up still using the dashed form for certain things, but they > >> are already special-cased (ie things like "git-receive-pack" and > >> "git-shell" that very much get executed directly, and for fundamental > >> reasons). > > > > Please do elaborate. >=20 > If you were to set set "/bin/git shell" in /etc/password it would not do > the right thing as far as I know. Is that a shell name with a space in > it, or the "shell" argument to /bin/git? True. And `git-shell` is not a builtin, so it does not even matter with regards to this discussion. > There's also the fully dashed forms of stuff like git-receive-pack is > part of the over-ssh convention, i.e.: >=20 > ssh git-upload-pack ... Even if upload-pack is not a builtin (and thus still has to be its own executable), receive-pack *is*, so this does affect our current discussion. This is a real problem. And it is our own darned fault because we let an implementation detail bleed into a protocol. We could have designed that a lot better. Of course we should fix this, though. There is literally no good reason that I can think of why we should not change this to `ssh git upload-pack ...` (of course with an insanely long deprecation period). Ciao, Dscho --8323329-2132141009-1521459284=:55--