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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Johannes Sixt <j6t@kdbg.org>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Daniel Jacques" <dnj@google.com>,
	"Steffen Prohaska" <prohaska@zib.de>,
	"John Keeping" <john@keeping.me.uk>, "Stan Hu" <stanhu@gmail.com>,
	"Richard Clamp" <richardc@unixbeard.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] Makefile: optionally symlink libexec/git-core binaries to bin/git
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 18:03:34 +0100 (STD)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.1803151757240.64@ZVAVAG-6OXH6DA.rhebcr.pbec.zvpebfbsg.pbz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1cabf9c0-674e-c2b3-9977-9c74b929a86d@kdbg.org>

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Hi,

On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, Johannes Sixt wrote:

> Am 13.03.2018 um 21:39 schrieb Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason:
> > Add a INSTALL_SYMLINKS option which if enabled, changes the default
> > hardlink installation method to one where the relevant binaries in
> > libexec/git-core are symlinked back to ../../bin, instead of being
> > hardlinked.
> > 
> > This new option also overrides the behavior of the existing
> > NO_*_HARDLINKS variables which in some cases would produce symlinks
> > within to libexec/, e.g. "git-add" symlinked to "git" which would be
> > copy of the "git" found in bin/, now "git-add" in libexec/ is always
> > going to be symlinked to the "git" found in the bin/ directory.
> 
> It is important to leave the default at hard-linking the binaries, because on
> Windows symbolic links are second class citizens (they require special
> privileges and there is a distinction between link targets being files or
> directories). Hard links work well.

To clarify: symbolic links do not exist in Windows Vista and earlier.
(There exists a concept called Junction points, but it has subtly
different semantics than symbolic links, different enough that we cannot
emulate symbolic links via Junctions).

Windows 7 and later do have symbolic links, but they require elevated
privileges to be created, as Hannes pointed out.

Since Windows 10 version 1703 (Creators Update), enabling Developer Mode
will disable this restriction and allow creating symlinks without UAC
elevation. See
https://blogs.windows.com/buildingapps/2016/12/02/symlinks-windows-10/ for
details.

In Git for Windows, I originally missed the memo and forgot to add support
for the special flag, but since Git for Windows v2.13.1, users can create
symbolic links without administrators' privileges on Windows 10 (Creators
Update or later) in Developer Mode.

Of course, we still support Windows all the way back to Vista, so the
default is still: no symbolic links.

Thanks for your attention,
Dscho

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-03-15 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-06 23:34 What's cooking in git.git (Mar 2018, #02; Tue, 6) Junio C Hamano
2018-03-07 12:34 ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-08  9:22   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-03-08 13:12     ` Daniel Jacques
2018-03-13 12:36       ` Why don't we symlink libexec/git-core/* to bin/git? Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-03-13 18:36         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-03-13 19:32           ` Randall S. Becker
2018-03-13 20:39           ` [PATCH 0/3] Makefile: add a INSTALL_SYMLINKS option Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-03-13 20:39           ` [PATCH 1/3] Makefile: fix broken bindir_relative variable Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-03-13 20:39           ` [PATCH 2/3] Makefile: add a gitexecdir_relative variable Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-03-13 20:39           ` [PATCH 3/3] Makefile: optionally symlink libexec/git-core binaries to bin/git Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-03-14  7:20             ` Johannes Sixt
2018-03-14 10:14               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-03-14 17:21                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-15 17:05                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-15 17:42                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-16 11:48                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-16 12:43                         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-03-19 11:34                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-19 21:21                             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-02 22:37                           ` [RFC/PATCH 0/5] stop installing old libexec aliases like "git-init" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-03  1:17                             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-05 11:36                               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-12 13:33                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-11-16 10:38                             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-16 16:00                               ` Michael Haggerty
2018-11-16 19:22                                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-17  6:39                                   ` Jeff King
2018-11-22 12:48                                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-11-22 16:06                                       ` Jeff King
2018-11-23 11:19                                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-11-02 22:37                           ` [RFC/PATCH 1/5] Makefile: move long inline shell loops in "install" into helper Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-04  1:09                             ` Eric Sunshine
2018-11-12 14:03                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-11-12 14:42                               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-12 16:32                                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-11-16 10:32                                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-02 22:37                           ` [RFC/PATCH 2/5] Makefile: conform some of the code to our coding standards Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-02 22:37                           ` [RFC/PATCH 3/5] Makefile: stop hiding failures during "install" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-02 22:37                           ` [RFC/PATCH 4/5] Makefile: add NO_INSTALL_SYMLINKS_FALLBACK switch Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-04  1:01                             ` Eric Sunshine
2018-11-02 22:37                           ` [RFC/PATCH 5/5] Makefile: Add a NO_INSTALL_BUILTIN_EXECDIR_ALIASES flag Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-04  1:04                             ` Eric Sunshine
2018-11-12 14:14                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-15 17:03               ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2018-03-14 10:18         ` Why don't we symlink libexec/git-core/* to bin/git? Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-03-14 16:07           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-03-15 17:16             ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-16 17:29               ` Duy Nguyen
2018-03-30  8:59                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-03-09  6:15 ` What's cooking in git.git (Mar 2018, #02; Tue, 6) Martin Ågren
2018-03-09  9:54   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-03-09 17:19   ` Junio C Hamano

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