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From: Jakub Narebski <>
To: Jeff King <>
Cc: Jonathan Nieder <>,
	Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <>,
	Clemens Buchacher <>,, Junio C Hamano <>,
	Jakub Narebski <>
Subject: Re: generation numbers (was: [PATCH 0/4] Speed up git tag --contains)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 07:26:53 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <m3mxgr4has.fsf_-_@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <>

Jeff King <> writes:
> On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 01:56:23AM -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> > Jeff King wrote:
> > 
> > > The problem is that existing objects don't have this generation number.
> > > It's easy to calculate, though, and we could in theory use a notes-cache
> > > to store it externally. Obviously the complexity and performance aren't
> > > going to be as good as if it were just in the commit object, but we're
> > > sadly 6 years too late to make that decision.
> > 
> > I am still digesting the rest of what you wrote, but wouldn't this be
> > easy to do today?  One could just use a notes-cache while prototyping
> > and if it seems to work well, introduce new loose and packed object
> > formats that include a field for the cached generation number.
> Yes, that's exactly how to do it. I'm just not sure "introduce new loose
> and packed object formats" is "easy to do". Though I'm not sure we need
> new formats. It is really just a new header in the commit object. And if
> we write the code carefully, we should be able to transparently use
> newly-generated objects with the field, and fall back to a notes-cache
> (with autogeneration) when it isn't there.

I understand that you would do autogeneration at least when you create
a commit, and at least one of parents does not have generation number.

You can also autogenerate notes-cache when following commits, and
encountering commit object without generation number.  

Or make "git gc" autogenerate cache-notes for generation number,
perhaps with an option (i.e. probably not for "git gc --auto").
> Existing git will ignore the new generation field. It does mean that old
> and new git will generate different sha1s for the exact same commit. I
> don't know how big a deal this is in practice. It matters a lot more for
> blobs and trees. But for commits, even if you are replaying a commit,
> you should be updating the commit timestamp, which is going to give a
> new sha1.
> The other thing I worry about is performance. You are building a full
> notes tree and looking up every commit in the traversal. I don't know
> how bad that will be (though from my other back-of-the-envelope tests,
> it may not actually be that bad; notes were designed to be fast for
> exactly this case).

Well, one thing that it would test our notes infrastructure...

Jakub Narebski
ShadeHawk on #git

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Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-11 19:04 [PATCH 0/4] Speed up git tag --contains Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2011-06-11 19:04 ` [PATCH 1/4] tag: speed up --contains calculation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2011-06-11 19:04 ` [PATCH 2/4] limit "contains" traversals based on commit timestamp Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2011-06-11 19:04 ` [PATCH 3/4] default core.clockskew variable to one day Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2011-06-11 19:04 ` [PATCH 4/4] Why is "git tag --contains" so slow? Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2011-07-06  6:40 ` [PATCH 0/4] Speed up git tag --contains Jeff King
2011-07-06  6:54   ` Jeff King
2011-07-06 19:06     ` Clemens Buchacher
2011-07-06  6:56   ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-07-06  7:03     ` Jeff King
2011-07-06 14:26       ` Jakub Narebski [this message]
2011-07-06 15:01         ` generation numbers (was: [PATCH 0/4] Speed up git tag --contains) Ted Ts'o
2011-07-06 18:12           ` Jeff King
2011-07-06 18:46             ` Jakub Narebski
2011-07-07 18:59               ` Jeff King
2011-07-07 19:34                 ` generation numbers Junio C Hamano
2011-07-07 20:31                   ` Jakub Narebski
2011-07-07 20:52                     ` A Large Angry SCM
2011-07-08  0:29                       ` Junio C Hamano
2011-07-08 22:57                   ` Jeff King
2011-07-06 23:22             ` Junio C Hamano
2011-07-07 19:08               ` Jeff King
2011-07-07 20:10                 ` Jakub Narebski
2018-01-12 18:56   ` [PATCH 0/4] Speed up git tag --contains csilvers
2018-03-03  5:15     ` Jeff King
2018-03-08 23:05       ` csilvers
2018-03-12 13:45       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-03-12 23:59         ` Jeff King

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