From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.176.0/21 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.4 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER,RP_MATCHES_RCVD shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 From: Seth Falcon Subject: Re: [RFC] requiring Perl SVN libraries for git-svn Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:02:38 -0800 Message-ID: References: <20061213202142.GE8179@localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: git@vger.kernel.org Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git@gmane.org DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:to:cc:subject:references:from:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=d4ReZ/BYgzUyMBLHCpkyTOzHullOJkujTagu3M1pwkjl6P5sVFNP8iW8eOfMFEccwb6L32z1eXyuGTKfcJDOGIbQsRbXQ4LmS/dxLovbi+Vxf1SNX8WsLnyeWKE+7y0uH3k3yU7IA24s9r4lpbQD0C5ytx5WnEkfm2ctCSuqZ+Y= In-Reply-To: <20061213202142.GE8179@localdomain> (Eric Wong's message of "Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:21:42 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (darwin) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by dough.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1GvFWP-0006ko-MV for gcvg-git@gmane.org; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:02:54 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752788AbWLOQCq (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:02:46 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752789AbWLOQCp (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:02:45 -0500 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.191]:63588 "EHLO nf-out-0910.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752788AbWLOQCp (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:02:45 -0500 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id o25so1173997nfa for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:02:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.91.6 with SMTP id t6mr213000nfl.1166198562797; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:02:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ziti.local ( [67.171.24.140]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id p43sm15474593nfa.2006.12.15.08.02.41; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:02:42 -0800 (PST) To: Eric Wong Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Eric Wong writes: > Are there any git-svn users out there who would be seriously hurt if I > dropped support for using the svn command-line client in git-svn? > > The API of the SVN:: libraries seem to be relatively stable these days > and are *much* faster than the command-line client. I plan on > maintaining compatibility with version 1.1 of the SVN libraries for at > least another year; or more if it's not a big problem. I've been using the SVN:: libraries and agree that that they work well (and faster). One downside I see is that the svn command-line stuff will Just Work for a lot of folks, whereas obtaining or building svn's Perl bindings can be more of a chore [*1*]. OTOH, using git-svn via the svn CLI is slow and much less fun than with SVN::. So I can also see an additional argument to drop so that people's first impression of git-svn won't be, "gaah, slow" -- because with the SVN:: libs, my experience has been, "yaah, much faster!" :-) My $0.02. + seth [*1*] I asked our sysadmin to install the Perl libraries on one of our new servers and although they seem to be installed, they are non-functional. git-svn stiffles the error messages, but a simple script that just tries to require SVN::Core gives: Can't load '/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/auto/SVN/_Core/_Core.so' for module SVN::_Core: /usr/local/src/subversion-1.4.2/subversion/libsvn_ra_dav/.libs/libsvn_ra_dav-1.so.0: undefined symbol: PKCS12_SAFEBAG_free at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/DynaLoader.pm line 230. Anyone else seen this? I guess that if you drop the svn command-line support, that it would then make sense to error out with more complete