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From: Glen Choo <chooglen@google.com>
To: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
Cc: Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/8] dir: avoid removing the current working directory
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 12:32:43 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <kl6lzgputxxw.fsf@chooglen-macbookpro.roam.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABPp-BGr9PDTE0q5zev4Ffx19g+hG083zdNShoSdH47VqzT8mw@mail.gmail.com>

Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com> writes:

>> I agree that most, possibly all, of our commands should prefer to die
>> than to remove the cwd, but that doesn't justify adding
>> application-level concerns to a general-purpose utility function. Even
>> if it sounds overly defensive, having an obviously correct utility
>> function makes it easier for future authors to know exactly what their
>> code is doing and why. And surely if we're imaginative enough, we can
>> definitely dream up some possible use cases for remove_path() that don't
>> want this dying behavior e.g. other applications that link to our
>> libraries, or some new merge strategy that may need to remove + restore
>> the cwd.
>
> Sounds like your objections here are based on a misunderstanding.  I
> totally agree with you that adding dying behavior to these functions
> would be wrong.
>
> My patch doesn't do that.

Ah my mistake, that should be s/die/'stop gently'. Even so, that is not
at the core of my objection, mixing of concerns is.

>> I'm not going to say that we'll *definitely* need remove_path()
>> in its current form, but mixing concerns like this is an invitation to
>> unexpected behavior. An (imperfect) example that demonstrates this
>> principle is https://lore.kernel.org/git/24bffdab139435173712101aaf72f7277298c99d.1632497954.git.gitgitgadget@gmail.com/,
>> where we made a change to a generic path matching function in order to
>> speed up unpack_trees(), but accidentally ended up breaking gitignore.
>
> There's no mixture of concerns; my patch is correcting this library
> function to more fully match its documented intent; from dir.h:
>
>     /* tries to remove the path with empty directories along it,
> ignores ENOENT */
>     int remove_path(const char *path);

I don't think that there is a mismatch; reading the implementation +
documented intent seems to make it clear that 'emptiness' is defined by
directory contents, not the presence of any processes using it as its
current working directory.

> Since the parent process's current working directory is still likely
> parked in that directory, there is a good reason to treat it as
> non-empty.  Thus the cwd should not be one of those directories
> removed along with the specified path.  No need to die, just stop
> removing the leading directories once it hits the cwd (much like it'd
> stop once it hit a directory that had files left in it).

This doesn't sound like a typical definition of 'emptiness' to me, but I
can accept it if others also find it compelling. IOW if your definition
of 'emptiness' is compelling enough, then I'll be convinced that there
is no mixing of concerns and there would be no objection.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-23 20:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 163+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-21  0:46 [PATCH 0/8] Avoid removing the current working directory, even if it becomes empty Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-21  0:46 ` [PATCH 1/8] t2501: add various tests for removing the current working directory Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-21 17:57   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-23  1:45     ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-23  2:19       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-23  3:11         ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-25 10:04           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-21  0:46 ` [PATCH 2/8] repository, setup: introduce the_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-21  8:00   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-22 22:38     ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-21  8:56   ` René Scharfe
2021-11-22 23:09     ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-21  0:46 ` [PATCH 3/8] unpack-trees: refuse to remove the current working directory Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-21  0:46 ` [PATCH 4/8] unpack-trees: add special cwd handling Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-21  0:46 ` [PATCH 5/8] symlinks: do not include current working directory in dir removal Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-21  8:56   ` René Scharfe
2021-11-23  0:35     ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-21  0:46 ` [PATCH 6/8] clean: do not attempt to remove current working directory Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-21 17:51   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-23  1:28     ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-21  0:46 ` [PATCH 7/8] stash: " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-21  0:47 ` [PATCH 8/8] dir: avoid removing the " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-23  0:39   ` Glen Choo
2021-11-23  1:19     ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-23 18:19       ` Glen Choo
2021-11-23 19:56         ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-23 20:32           ` Glen Choo [this message]
2021-11-23 21:57             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-23 23:23               ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-24  5:46                 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-23 23:13             ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-24  0:39               ` Glen Choo
2021-11-24  5:46                 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-24  1:10           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-24  4:35             ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-24 11:14               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-24 14:11                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-25  2:54                   ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-25 11:12                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-26 21:40                       ` The overhead of bin-wrappers/ (was: [PATCH 8/8] dir: avoid removing the current working directory) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-24 14:33                 ` [PATCH 8/8] dir: avoid removing the current working directory Philip Oakley
2021-11-24 19:46                   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-25 12:54                     ` Philip Oakley
2021-11-25 13:51                       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-25  2:48                 ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-24 19:43               ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-21  8:11 ` [PATCH 0/8] Avoid removing the current working directory, even if it becomes empty Junio C Hamano
2021-11-25  8:39 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-25  8:39   ` [PATCH v2 1/9] t2501: add various tests for removing the current working directory Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-25 10:21     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-25  8:39   ` [PATCH v2 2/9] setup: introduce startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-25 10:44     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-26 17:55       ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-26  6:52     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-26 18:01       ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-29 14:05     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-11-29 17:18       ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-29 17:43         ` Derrick Stolee
2021-11-29 17:42       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-25  8:39   ` [PATCH v2 3/9] unpack-trees: refuse to remove startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-25 10:56     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-26 18:06       ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-29 14:10     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-11-29 17:26       ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-25  8:39   ` [PATCH v2 4/9] unpack-trees: add special cwd handling Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 14:14     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-11-29 17:33       ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-25  8:39   ` [PATCH v2 5/9] symlinks: do not include startup_info->original_cwd in dir removal Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-25  8:39   ` [PATCH v2 6/9] clean: do not attempt to remove startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-25  8:39   ` [PATCH v2 7/9] stash: " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-25 10:58     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-26 18:04       ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-25  8:39   ` [PATCH v2 8/9] dir: avoid incidentally removing the original_cwd in remove_path() Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-25  8:39   ` [PATCH v2 9/9] dir: new flag to remove_dir_recurse() to spare the original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-26 22:40   ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Avoid removing the current working directory, even if it becomes empty Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-26 22:40     ` [PATCH v3 01/11] t2501: add various tests for removing the current working directory Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-27 10:32       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-27 19:16         ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-26 22:40     ` [PATCH v3 02/11] setup: introduce startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-27 10:35       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-27 17:05         ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-27 10:40       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-27 18:31         ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-28 18:04           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 21:58             ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-26 22:40     ` [PATCH v3 03/11] unpack-trees: refuse to remove startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-26 22:40     ` [PATCH v3 04/11] unpack-trees: add special cwd handling Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-26 22:40     ` [PATCH v3 05/11] symlinks: do not include startup_info->original_cwd in dir removal Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-26 22:40     ` [PATCH v3 06/11] clean: do not attempt to remove startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-26 22:40     ` [PATCH v3 07/11] rebase: " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 17:50       ` Derrick Stolee
2021-11-29 19:22         ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-29 19:42           ` Derrick Stolee
2021-11-26 22:40     ` [PATCH v3 08/11] stash: " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-26 22:41     ` [PATCH v3 09/11] dir: avoid incidentally removing the original_cwd in remove_path() Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-26 22:41     ` [PATCH v3 10/11] dir: new flag to remove_dir_recurse() to spare the original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-26 22:41     ` [PATCH v3 11/11] t2501: simplify the tests since we can now assume desired behavior Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 17:57     ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Avoid removing the current working directory, even if it becomes empty Derrick Stolee
2021-11-29 22:37     ` [PATCH v4 " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 22:37       ` [PATCH v4 01/11] t2501: add various tests for removing the current working directory Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-30  6:47         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-30  6:53           ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-29 22:37       ` [PATCH v4 02/11] setup: introduce startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 22:37       ` [PATCH v4 03/11] unpack-trees: refuse to remove startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 22:37       ` [PATCH v4 04/11] unpack-trees: add special cwd handling Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 22:37       ` [PATCH v4 05/11] symlinks: do not include startup_info->original_cwd in dir removal Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 22:37       ` [PATCH v4 06/11] clean: do not attempt to remove startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 22:37       ` [PATCH v4 07/11] rebase: " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 22:37       ` [PATCH v4 08/11] stash: " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 22:37       ` [PATCH v4 09/11] dir: avoid incidentally removing the original_cwd in remove_path() Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 22:37       ` [PATCH v4 10/11] dir: new flag to remove_dir_recurse() to spare the original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 22:37       ` [PATCH v4 11/11] t2501: simplify the tests since we can now assume desired behavior Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 23:38       ` [PATCH v4 00/11] Avoid removing the current working directory, even if it becomes empty Eric Sunshine
2021-11-30  0:16         ` Elijah Newren
2021-12-01  6:40       ` [PATCH v5 " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-01  6:40         ` [PATCH v5 01/11] t2501: add various tests for removing the current working directory Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-01  6:40         ` [PATCH v5 02/11] setup: introduce startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-01  6:40         ` [PATCH v5 03/11] unpack-trees: refuse to remove startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-01  6:40         ` [PATCH v5 04/11] unpack-trees: add special cwd handling Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-01  6:40         ` [PATCH v5 05/11] symlinks: do not include startup_info->original_cwd in dir removal Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-01  6:40         ` [PATCH v5 06/11] clean: do not attempt to remove startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-01  6:40         ` [PATCH v5 07/11] rebase: " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-01-25 20:26           ` [Bug] Rebase from worktree subdir is broken (was Re: [PATCH v5 07/11] rebase: do not attempt to remove startup_info->original_cwd) Glen Choo
2022-01-25 23:59             ` Elijah Newren
2022-01-26  0:30               ` Glen Choo
2022-01-26 19:04                 ` Elijah Newren
2022-01-26  0:32               ` Eric Sunshine
2022-01-26  0:38                 ` Eric Sunshine
2022-01-26  0:51                   ` Elijah Newren
2022-01-26  1:15                     ` Glen Choo
2022-01-26  1:38                       ` Elijah Newren
2022-01-26 11:00               ` Phillip Wood
2022-01-26 17:53                 ` Eric Sunshine
2022-01-27 11:01                   ` Phillip Wood
2022-01-27 20:03                   ` Elijah Newren
2022-02-05 11:23                     ` Eric Sunshine
2022-02-05 11:42                       ` Eric Sunshine
2022-02-05 22:35                         ` Elijah Newren
2021-12-01  6:40         ` [PATCH v5 08/11] stash: do not attempt to remove startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-01  6:40         ` [PATCH v5 09/11] dir: avoid incidentally removing the original_cwd in remove_path() Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-01  6:40         ` [PATCH v5 10/11] dir: new flag to remove_dir_recurse() to spare the original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-01  6:40         ` [PATCH v5 11/11] t2501: simplify the tests since we can now assume desired behavior Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-07 16:09         ` [PATCH v5 00/11] Avoid removing the current working directory, even if it becomes empty Derrick Stolee
2021-12-07 18:30           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-07 20:57             ` Derrick Stolee
2021-12-08 10:23               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-07 20:43           ` Elijah Newren
2021-12-07 21:00             ` Derrick Stolee
2021-12-09  5:08         ` [PATCH v6 " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09  5:08           ` [PATCH v6 01/11] t2501: add various tests for removing the current working directory Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-03-11 11:57             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-09  5:08           ` [PATCH v6 02/11] setup: introduce startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09  5:08           ` [PATCH v6 03/11] unpack-trees: refuse to remove startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09  5:08           ` [PATCH v6 04/11] unpack-trees: add special cwd handling Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09  5:08           ` [PATCH v6 05/11] symlinks: do not include startup_info->original_cwd in dir removal Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09  5:08           ` [PATCH v6 06/11] clean: do not attempt to remove startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09  5:08           ` [PATCH v6 07/11] rebase: " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09  5:08           ` [PATCH v6 08/11] stash: " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09  5:08           ` [PATCH v6 09/11] dir: avoid incidentally removing the original_cwd in remove_path() Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09  5:08           ` [PATCH v6 10/11] dir: new flag to remove_dir_recurse() to spare the original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09  5:08           ` [PATCH v6 11/11] t2501: simplify the tests since we can now assume desired behavior Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-30 11:04     ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Avoid removing the current working directory, even if it becomes empty Phillip Wood
2021-12-01  0:03       ` Elijah Newren

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