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From: Glen Choo <chooglen@google.com>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>,
	Robert Coup <robert@coup.net.nz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/10] Get rid of "git --super-prefix"
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2022 13:07:05 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <kl6lsfiivcau.fsf@chooglen-macbookpro.roam.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <221115.868rkdknmz.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com>

Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> writes:

> On Mon, Nov 14 2022, Glen Choo wrote:
>
>> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> It's also proposing to replace Glen's one-patch[6], which is working
>>> around the problem shown in the test added in 1/10 here. Per
>>> downthread of [7] I think Glen was aiming for getting a more narrow
>>> fix in case we split off 9/10 here into some later fix.
>>>
>>> As we're fixing an edge case in something that's always been broken
>>> (and thus wouldn't backport) I think it's better to just fix the
>>> problem directly, rather than introducing new "--super-prefix" use,
>>> just to take it away later.
>>
>> I still prefer that we take the one-patch to unbreak new releases,
>> because partial clone + submodules is absolutely broken (e.g. it's
>> already causing quite a lot of headaches at $DAYJOB) and the patch is
>> obviously harmless.
>>
>> And more importantly, it lets us take our time with this series and get
>> it right without time pressure. It's not as pressing as, e.g. a
>> regression fix, but it does render certain Git setups unusable.
>>
>> With regards to urgency and when to choose "small and harmless fixes vs
>> bigger and better fixes", I think Junio has generally made those calls
>> in the past. @Taylor if you have an opinion, I'd love to hear it.
>
> I feel like I'm missing something here. What's the regression? The test
> you're adding here didn't work at all until 0f5e8851737 (Merge branch
> 'rc/fetch-refetch', 2022-04-04), as the command didn't exist yet. That
> commit went out with v2.36.0.
>
> If it never worked there's no regression, and we wouldn't be merging
> down a fix for older point-releases.
>
> Or is there some case I've missed here which did work before, doesn't
> now, but just isn't captured in this test? If so what case is that, and
> when did it break?

Right, this wasn't meant to be a regression fix at all. There's good
reason to believe that this was always broken, so I never went digging
to see if it ever worked.

Even so, it doesn't change the fact that it's a use case that we've
expected to work, but doesn't due to some internal silliness, and that
we could fix it without invoking questions of the "--super-prefix"
design and dragging out the process (which is admittedly what I should
have done in the first place). Since we have such an easy fix in front
of us, I don't feel good about not fixing this before the next release.

At any rate, I'm wiling to accept that I'm being overly cautious,
because it's quite likely that this series will make it into the next
release. (We could technically we unbreak 'next', though I don't know
who distributes that other than internally @ Google.) I'm ok to drop my
patch for now, but I'll revive it if it starts to look like this series
won't make it into the next release.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-16 21:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-09  0:47 [RFC PATCH 0/4] git: remove --super-prefix Glen Choo
2022-11-09  0:47 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] submodule--helper: teach --toplevel-cwd-prefix Glen Choo
2022-11-09  2:37   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-09  0:47 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] fetch: refactor --submodule-prefix Glen Choo
2022-11-09  3:06   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-09  0:47 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] read-tree: teach --submodule-prefix Glen Choo
2022-11-09  3:13   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-09  0:47 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] git: remove --super-prefix Glen Choo
2022-11-09 19:34 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] Get rid of "git --super-prefix" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-09 19:34   ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] submodule--helper: don't use global --super-prefix in "absorbgitdirs" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-11  0:12     ` Glen Choo
2022-11-09 19:34   ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] submodule--helper: "deinit" has never used "--super-prefix" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-09 19:34   ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] submodule--helper: convert "foreach" to its own "--super-prefix" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-09 19:34   ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] submodule--helper: convert "sync" " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-09 19:34   ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] submodule--helper: convert "status" " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-09 19:34   ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] submodule--helper: convert "{update,clone}" to their " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-09 19:34   ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] submodule tests: test "git branch -t" output and stderr Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-09 19:34   ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] read-tree: add "--super-prefix" option, eliminate global Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-11  0:40     ` Glen Choo
2022-11-09 21:21   ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] Get rid of "git --super-prefix" Taylor Blau
2022-11-09 21:47     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-09 22:27       ` Taylor Blau
2022-11-09 22:54         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-10  0:45   ` Glen Choo
2022-11-10 10:51     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-11  1:07       ` Glen Choo
2022-11-11 18:29         ` Glen Choo
2022-11-11 21:17           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-11 21:51             ` Taylor Blau
2022-11-12  1:10             ` Glen Choo
2022-11-14 10:09               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-14 23:33                 ` Glen Choo
2022-11-15  1:37                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-14 10:08   ` [PATCH v2 00/10] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-14 10:08     ` [PATCH v2 01/10] read-tree + fetch tests: test failing "--super-prefix" interaction Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-14 19:00       ` Glen Choo
2022-11-14 19:14         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-14 19:49           ` Glen Choo
2022-11-14 10:08     ` [PATCH v2 02/10] submodule--helper: don't use global --super-prefix in "absorbgitdirs" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-14 21:22       ` Glen Choo
2022-11-17 18:10         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-14 10:08     ` [PATCH v2 03/10] submodule--helper: "deinit" has never used "--super-prefix" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-14 10:08     ` [PATCH v2 04/10] submodule--helper: convert "foreach" to its own "--super-prefix" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-14 21:56       ` Glen Choo
2022-11-17 18:14         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-14 10:08     ` [PATCH v2 05/10] submodule--helper: convert "sync" " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-14 10:08     ` [PATCH v2 06/10] submodule--helper: convert "status" " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-14 10:08     ` [PATCH v2 07/10] submodule--helper: convert "{update,clone}" to their " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-14 22:04       ` Glen Choo
2022-11-14 10:08     ` [PATCH v2 08/10] submodule tests: test "git branch -t" output and stderr Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-14 22:20       ` Glen Choo
2022-11-14 10:08     ` [PATCH v2 09/10] read-tree: add "--super-prefix" option, eliminate global Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-14 22:28       ` Glen Choo
2022-11-14 10:08     ` [PATCH v2 10/10] fetch: rename "--submodule-prefix" to "--super-prefix" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-14 22:31       ` Glen Choo
2022-11-14 21:59     ` [PATCH v2 00/10] Get rid of "git --super-prefix" Taylor Blau
2022-11-14 23:20     ` Glen Choo
2022-11-14 23:39     ` Glen Choo
2022-11-15  1:27       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-16 21:07         ` Glen Choo [this message]
2022-11-17 18:07           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-21 19:16             ` Glen Choo
2022-11-19 12:41     ` [PATCH v3 0/9] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-19 12:41       ` [PATCH v3 1/9] read-tree + fetch tests: test failing "--super-prefix" interaction Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-19 12:41       ` [PATCH v3 2/9] submodule.c & submodule--helper: pass along "super_prefix" param Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-19 12:41       ` [PATCH v3 3/9] submodule--helper: don't use global --super-prefix in "absorbgitdirs" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-22 19:53         ` Glen Choo
2022-11-19 12:41       ` [PATCH v3 4/9] submodule--helper: convert "foreach" to its own "--super-prefix" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-19 12:41       ` [PATCH v3 5/9] submodule--helper: convert "sync" " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-19 12:41       ` [PATCH v3 6/9] submodule--helper: convert "status" " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-19 12:41       ` [PATCH v3 7/9] submodule--helper: convert "{update,clone}" to their " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-19 12:41       ` [PATCH v3 8/9] read-tree: add "--super-prefix" option, eliminate global Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-22 19:57         ` Glen Choo
2022-11-19 12:41       ` [PATCH v3 9/9] fetch: rename "--submodule-prefix" to "--super-prefix" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-22 22:29       ` [PATCH v3 0/9] Get rid of "git --super-prefix" Glen Choo
2022-12-15  9:32       ` [PATCH v4 " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-15  9:32         ` [PATCH v4 1/9] submodule absorbgitdirs tests: add missing "Migrating git..." tests Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-15 20:54           ` Glen Choo
2022-12-20 10:32             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-15  9:32         ` [PATCH v4 2/9] read-tree + fetch tests: test failing "--super-prefix" interaction Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-15  9:32         ` [PATCH v4 3/9] submodule.c & submodule--helper: pass along "super_prefix" param Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-15  9:32         ` [PATCH v4 4/9] submodule--helper: don't use global --super-prefix in "absorbgitdirs" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-15 21:05           ` Glen Choo
2022-12-15  9:32         ` [PATCH v4 5/9] submodule--helper: convert "foreach" to its own "--super-prefix" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-15  9:32         ` [PATCH v4 6/9] submodule--helper: convert "sync" " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-15  9:32         ` [PATCH v4 7/9] submodule--helper: convert "status" " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-15  9:32         ` [PATCH v4 8/9] submodule--helper: convert "{update,clone}" to their " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-15  9:32         ` [PATCH v4 9/9] read-tree: add "--super-prefix" option, eliminate global Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-15 21:19         ` [PATCH v4 0/9] Get rid of "git --super-prefix" Glen Choo
2022-12-15 22:19           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-12-15 22:12         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-12-20 12:39         ` [PATCH v5 " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-20 12:39           ` [PATCH v5 1/9] submodule absorbgitdirs tests: add missing "Migrating git..." tests Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-20 12:39           ` [PATCH v5 2/9] read-tree + fetch tests: test failing "--super-prefix" interaction Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-20 12:39           ` [PATCH v5 3/9] submodule.c & submodule--helper: pass along "super_prefix" param Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-20 12:39           ` [PATCH v5 4/9] submodule--helper: don't use global --super-prefix in "absorbgitdirs" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-20 12:39           ` [PATCH v5 5/9] submodule--helper: convert "foreach" to its own "--super-prefix" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-20 12:39           ` [PATCH v5 6/9] submodule--helper: convert "sync" " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-20 12:39           ` [PATCH v5 7/9] submodule--helper: convert "status" " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-20 12:39           ` [PATCH v5 8/9] submodule--helper: convert "{update,clone}" to their " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-12-20 12:39           ` [PATCH v5 9/9] read-tree: add "--super-prefix" option, eliminate global Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-09 21:16 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] git: remove --super-prefix Taylor Blau
2022-11-09 23:55   ` Glen Choo
2022-11-10  2:14     ` Taylor Blau
2022-11-10 23:49       ` Glen Choo

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