From: Glen Choo <chooglen@google.com>
To: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>,
Glen Choo via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org,
"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
"Derrick Stolee" <derrickstolee@github.com>,
"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
"Emily Shaffer" <emilyshaffer@google.com>,
"Jonathan Tan" <jonathantanmy@google.com>,
"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/5] Documentation/git-config.txt: add SCOPES section
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2022 10:44:11 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <kl6llet6rv9w.fsf@chooglen-macbookpro.roam.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yr4ka485NzadFTto@nand.local>
Hi! Thanks so much for lending your attention to this version again, I
really appreciate this wording feedback in particular, because the
Review Club reviewers and I agonized a lot over the wording and couldn't
come up with great alternatives to what I wrote in the patch, and your
suggestions are super helpful.
Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com> writes:
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 06:13:55PM +0000, Glen Choo via GitGitGadget wrote:
>> From: Glen Choo <chooglen@google.com>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/git-config.txt b/Documentation/git-config.txt
>> index 9376e39aef2..f93d437b898 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/git-config.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/git-config.txt
>> @@ -297,8 +297,8 @@ The default is to use a pager.
>> FILES
>> -----
>>
>> -If not set explicitly with `--file`, there are four files where
>> -'git config' will search for configuration options:
>> +By default, 'git config' will read configuration options from multiple
>> +files:
>>
>> $(prefix)/etc/gitconfig::
>> System-wide configuration file.
>> @@ -322,27 +322,63 @@ $GIT_DIR/config.worktree::
>> This is optional and is only searched when
>> `extensions.worktreeConfig` is present in $GIT_DIR/config.
>>
>> -If no further options are given, all reading options will read all of these
>> -files that are available. If the global or the system-wide configuration
>> -file are not available they will be ignored. If the repository configuration
>> -file is not available or readable, 'git config' will exit with a non-zero
>> -error code. However, in neither case will an error message be issued.
>> +You may also provide additional configuration parameters when running any
>> +git command by using the `-c` option. See linkgit:git[1] for details.
>> +
>> +Options will be read from all of these files that are available. If the
>> +global or the system-wide configuration file are not available they will be
>> +ignored. If the repository configuration file is not available or readable,
>> +'git config' will exit with a non-zero error code. However, in neither case
>> +will an error message be issued.
>
> Nit: the last sentence is a little awkwardly worded. Perhaps just:
> "Note that neither case produces an error message".
Good suggestion. I didn't change this sentence, but I agree that it's
worth improving.
>> -All writing options will per default write to the repository specific
>> +By default, options are only written to the repository specific
>> configuration file. Note that this also affects options like `--replace-all`
>
> Should we mention that this is the same as the "local" scope below?
Also a good idea.
>> and `--unset`. *'git config' will only ever change one file at a time*.
>>
>> -You can override these rules using the `--global`, `--system`,
>> -`--local`, `--worktree`, and `--file` command-line options; see
>> -<<OPTIONS>> above.
>> +You can change the way options are read/written by specifying the path to a
>> +file (`--file`), or by specifying a configuration scope (`--system`,
>> +`--global`, `--local`, `--worktree`); see <<OPTIONS>> above.
>
> I think this paragraph could be slightly more descriptive about what
> `--file` does while still linking out to <<OPTIONS>> above for more
> detailed information. In the pre-image, we say:
>
> If not set explicitly with `--file`, there are four files will `git
> config will search`.
>
> So I wonder if something more descriptive in this section might be:
>
> You can limit which configuration sources are read to or written
> from by specifying the path of a file with the `--file` option, or
> by specifying a scope with `--system`, `--global`, `--local`, or
> `--worktree`. For more, see <<OPTIONS>> above.
>
> I don't think that's so different form what you wrote, but I think it's
> a little clearer particularly what `--file` does (instead of "change the
> way options are read/written" it "limit[s] which configuration sources
> are read to or written from").
I think this is _much_ clearer, actually. Thanks!
>> +
>> +SCOPES
>> +------
>> +
>> +Each configuration source falls within a configuration scope. The scopes
>> +are:
>> +
>> +system::
>> + $(prefix)/etc/gitconfig
>> +
>> +global::
>> + $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/git/config
>> ++
>> +~/.gitconfig
>> +
>> +local::
>> + $GIT_DIR/config
>> +
>> +worktree::
>> + $GIT_DIR/config.worktree
>> +
>> +command::
>> + environment variables
>> ++
>> +the `-c` option
>> +
>> +With the exception of 'command', each scope corresponds to a command line
>> +option - `--system`, `--global`, `--local`, `--worktree`.
>
> I think a colon after "option" is more appropriate than a single "-"
> dash character, but this is definitely a trivial matter that I have no
> strong opinion on.
>
> One thing that this reminds me of (which I don't think is worth taking
> up here, but perhaps in a future series, or as #leftoverbits) would be
> promoting these scopes behind a single option. Back in the day, you
> could ask for values out of `git config` by specifying their type with
> `--int`, `--bool`, or similar. In e3e042b185 (Merge branch
> 'tb/config-type', 2018-05-08), we changed to
> `--type=<int|bool|color|etc>`, which unified things and made it clearer
> which options were grouped together by a single concept.
>
> I think a similar change would make sense here, that is to replace
> `--system`, `--global` (and so on) with `--scope=system`,
> `--scope=global`, etc.
>
> But that's not material to this series, and just something to think
> about for later on if you end up thinking it's a good idea.
This sounds like a great idea, actually. I agree that `--scope` is
probably a lot easier to reason about than having N scope flags, and
that this probably belongs in a future series.
>> +
>> +When reading options, specifying a scope will only read options from the
>> +files within that scope. When writing options, specifying a scope will write
>> +to the files within that scope (instead of the repository specific
>> +configuration file). See <<OPTIONS>> above for a complete description.
>>
>> +Most configuration options are respected regardless of the scope it is
>> +defined in, but some options are only respected in certain scopes. See the
>> +option's documentation for the full details.
>
> I assume "the option's" is referring to whichever configuration variable
> we're talking about. So it may be clearer to say "See the *respective*
> option's documentation for more information" or similar.
Good idea. Thanks again!
>
> Thanks,
> Taylor
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Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-06 18:30 [PATCH] [RFC] setup.c: make bare repo discovery optional Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-05-06 20:33 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-09 21:42 ` Taylor Blau
2022-05-09 22:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-09 23:57 ` Taylor Blau
2022-05-10 0:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-10 22:00 ` Glen Choo
2022-05-13 23:37 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] " Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-05-13 23:37 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] " Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-05-16 18:12 ` Glen Choo
2022-05-16 18:46 ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-16 22:25 ` Taylor Blau
2022-05-17 20:24 ` Glen Choo
2022-05-17 21:51 ` Glen Choo
2022-05-13 23:37 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] setup.c: learn discovery.bareRepository=cwd Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-05-16 18:49 ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-16 16:40 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] setup.c: make bare repo discovery optional Junio C Hamano
2022-05-16 18:36 ` Glen Choo
2022-05-16 19:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-16 20:27 ` Glen Choo
2022-05-16 22:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-16 16:43 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-16 19:07 ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-16 22:43 ` Taylor Blau
2022-05-16 23:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-17 18:56 ` Glen Choo
2022-05-27 21:09 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] config: introduce discovery.bare and protected config Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-05-27 21:09 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] Documentation: define protected configuration Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-05-27 23:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-02 12:42 ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-02 16:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-02 17:39 ` Glen Choo
2022-06-03 15:57 ` Glen Choo
2022-05-27 21:09 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] config: read protected config with `git_protected_config()` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-05-28 0:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-31 17:43 ` Glen Choo
2022-06-01 15:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-02 12:56 ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-27 21:09 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] setup.c: create `discovery.bare` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-05-28 0:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-02 13:11 ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-27 21:09 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] config: include "-c" in protected config Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-02 13:15 ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-27 21:09 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] upload-pack: make uploadpack.packObjectsHook protected Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-02 13:18 ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-07 20:57 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] config: introduce discovery.bare and protected config Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-07 20:57 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] Documentation/git-config.txt: add SCOPES section Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-07 20:57 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] Documentation: define protected configuration Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-22 21:58 ` Jonathan Tan
2022-06-23 18:21 ` Glen Choo
2022-06-07 20:57 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] config: read protected config with `git_protected_config()` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-07 22:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-08 0:22 ` Glen Choo
2022-06-07 20:57 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] safe.directory: use git_protected_config() Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-07 20:57 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] setup.c: create `discovery.bare` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-07 21:37 ` Glen Choo
2022-06-22 22:03 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] config: introduce discovery.bare and protected config Jonathan Tan
2022-06-23 17:13 ` Glen Choo
2022-06-23 18:32 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-27 17:34 ` Glen Choo
2022-06-27 18:19 ` Glen Choo
2022-06-27 18:36 ` [PATCH v5 " Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-27 18:36 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] Documentation/git-config.txt: add SCOPES section Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-27 18:36 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] Documentation: define protected configuration Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-27 18:36 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] config: learn `git_protected_config()` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-27 18:36 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] safe.directory: use git_protected_config() Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-27 18:36 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] setup.c: create `discovery.bare` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-30 13:20 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-30 17:28 ` Glen Choo
2022-06-30 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 0/5] config: introduce discovery.bare and protected config Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-30 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] Documentation/git-config.txt: add SCOPES section Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-30 22:32 ` Taylor Blau
2022-07-06 17:44 ` Glen Choo [this message]
2022-06-30 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] Documentation: define protected configuration Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-30 23:49 ` Taylor Blau
2022-07-06 18:21 ` Glen Choo
2022-06-30 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] config: learn `git_protected_config()` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-01 1:22 ` Taylor Blau
2022-07-06 22:42 ` Glen Choo
2022-06-30 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] safe.directory: use git_protected_config() Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-06-30 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] setup.c: create `discovery.bare` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-01 1:30 ` Taylor Blau
2022-07-07 19:55 ` Glen Choo
2022-06-30 22:13 ` [PATCH v6 0/5] config: introduce discovery.bare and protected config Taylor Blau
2022-06-30 23:07 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-01 17:37 ` Glen Choo
2022-07-08 21:58 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-12 20:47 ` Glen Choo
2022-07-12 23:53 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-07 23:01 ` [PATCH v7 " Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-07 23:01 ` [PATCH v7 1/5] Documentation/git-config.txt: add SCOPES section Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-07 23:43 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-08 17:01 ` Glen Choo
2022-07-08 19:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-08 21:38 ` Glen Choo
2022-07-07 23:01 ` [PATCH v7 2/5] Documentation: define protected configuration Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-08 0:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-07 23:01 ` [PATCH v7 3/5] config: learn `git_protected_config()` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-07 23:01 ` [PATCH v7 4/5] safe.directory: use git_protected_config() Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-07 23:01 ` [PATCH v7 5/5] setup.c: create `discovery.bare` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-08 1:07 ` [PATCH v7 0/5] config: introduce discovery.bare and protected config Junio C Hamano
2022-07-08 20:35 ` Glen Choo
2022-07-12 22:11 ` Glen Choo
2022-07-14 21:27 ` [PATCH v8 0/5] config: introduce safe.bareRepository " Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-14 21:27 ` [PATCH v8 1/5] Documentation/git-config.txt: add SCOPES section Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-14 21:27 ` [PATCH v8 2/5] Documentation: define protected configuration Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-14 21:27 ` [PATCH v8 3/5] config: learn `git_protected_config()` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-25 18:26 ` SANITIZE=address failure on master (was: [PATCH v8 3/5] config: learn `git_protected_config()`) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-25 20:15 ` Glen Choo
2022-07-25 20:41 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-25 20:56 ` Glen Choo
2022-07-14 21:28 ` [PATCH v8 4/5] safe.directory: use git_protected_config() Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
2022-07-14 21:28 ` [PATCH v8 5/5] setup.c: create `safe.bareRepository` Glen Choo via GitGitGadget
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