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From: Glen Choo <chooglen@google.com>
To: Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>
Cc: jonathantanmy@google.com, git@vger.kernel.org, avarab@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 2/2] config: include file if remote URL matches a glob
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2021 15:33:17 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <kl6l8rwt9ww2.fsf@chooglen-macbookpro.roam.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211209223919.513113-1-jonathantanmy@google.com>

Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com> writes:

>> > +`hasconfig:remote.*.url:`::
>> > +	The data that follows this keyword is taken to
>> > +	be a pattern with standard globbing wildcards and two
>> > +	additional ones, `**/` and `/**`, that can match multiple
>> > +	components. The first time this keyword is seen, the rest of
>> > +	the config files will be scanned for remote URLs (without
>> > +	applying any values). If there exists at least one remote URL
>> > +	that matches this pattern, the include condition is met.
>> > ++
>> > +Files included by this option (directly or indirectly) are not allowed
>> > +to contain remote URLs.
>> 
>> Wondering out loud.. Reading this and Ævar's comment [1], I wonder if we
>> should make it clear to users *why* we choose to forbid remote URLs.
>> 
>> Since this series is setting a precedent for future "hasconfig:"
>> conditions (files included by "hasconfig:foo.*.bar" cannot contain any
>> "foo.*.bar" values), it would be useful to git developers to explain
>> *why* we chose to do this. And if we're documenting it for ourselves,
>> we might as well write it in the public docs. That way, users would know
>> that this is more of a guardrail (because it's simpler to understand
>> this way) than a hard limitation.
>> 
>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/git/211207.86k0ggnvfo.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com
>
> The explanation is rather long, though. It goes something like this:
>
>   If the main config is:
>
>   [remote a]
>     url = bar
>   [includeif hasconfig:remote.*.url:foo]
>     path = foo
>   [includeif hasconfig:remote.*.url:bar]
>     path = bar
>
>   and "bar" contains:
>
>   [remote b]
>     url = foo
>
>   Should "foo" be included? For now, we avoid these situations
>   completely by prohibiting URLs from being configured in "includeif
>   hasconfig".
>
> If you can think of a concise explanation, maybe we can include it.

Yeah, I can't think of a concise-yet-clear way to convey this to users
(if I had thought of one, I wouldn't have prefaced my original comment
with "Wondering out loud").

Spitballing here...

  `hasconfig:remote.*.url:`::
    The data that follows this keyword is taken to
    be a pattern with standard globbing wildcards and two
    additional ones, `**/` and `/**`, that can match multiple
    components. The first time this keyword is seen, the rest of
    the config files will be scanned for remote URLs (without
    applying any values). If there exists at least one remote URL
    that matches this pattern, the include condition is met.

  - Files included by this option (directly or indirectly) are not allowed
  - to contain remote URLs.
  + Because new remote URLs might affect the correctness of the include
  + condition, files included by this option (directly or indirectly) are
  + not allowed to contain remote URLs.

Although, upon further reflection, I wonder if this approach of banning
config variables really gives us the safety we want after all. Reworking
your example, say we expand "hasconfig" to include
"hasconfig:branch.*.merge" then we can have this in the main config:

   [remote a]
     url = baz
   [branch c]
     merge = bar

   [includeif hasconfig:remote.*.url:foo]
     path = foo
   [includeif hasconfig:branch.*.merge:bar]
     path = bar

and "bar" contains:

   [remote b]
     url = foo

we end up with the exact same question of "Should "foo" be included?".
This shows that the rule isn't actually "files included by
hasconfig:remote.*.url cannot include remote.*.url", but the much more
restrictive "files included by hasconfig:<anything> cannot include any
config values that can appear in hasconfig". This sounds pretty unusable
to me..

But I think that with the semantics you've defined, we don't really need
to forbid config variables. This section describes:

  The first time this keyword is seen, the rest of the config files will
  be scanned for remote URLs (without applying any values). If there
  exists at least one remote URL that matches this pattern, the include
  condition is met.

which, to me, gives us a pass to say "the first time we see a hasconfig,
we will do an additional scan without applying values". That doesn't
sound _too_ confusing to me, but I don't know how it looks to someone
with fresh eyes.

Forgive me if this exact suggestion came up before on-list (I know we've
discussed this exact approach off-list).

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-09 23:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-12 22:57 [RFC PATCH 0/2] Conditional config includes based on remote URL Jonathan Tan
2021-10-12 22:57 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] config: make git_config_include() static Jonathan Tan
2021-10-12 23:07   ` Jeff King
2021-10-12 23:26   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-13  8:26   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-13 17:00     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-13 18:13       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-10-12 22:57 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] config: include file if remote URL matches a glob Jonathan Tan
2021-10-12 23:30   ` Jeff King
2021-10-13 18:33     ` Jonathan Tan
2021-10-27 11:40       ` Jeff King
2021-10-27 17:23         ` Jonathan Tan
2021-10-12 23:48   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-13 19:52     ` Jonathan Tan
2021-10-13  0:46 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] Conditional config includes based on remote URL brian m. carlson
2021-10-13 18:17   ` Jonathan Tan
2021-10-18 20:48 ` Jonathan Tan
2021-10-22  3:12   ` Emily Shaffer
2021-10-27 11:55   ` Jeff King
2021-10-27 17:52     ` Jonathan Tan
2021-10-27 20:32       ` Jeff King
2021-10-25 13:03 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-25 18:53   ` Jonathan Tan
2021-10-26 10:12     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-29 17:31 ` [WIP v2 " Jonathan Tan
2021-10-29 17:31   ` [WIP v2 1/2] config: make git_config_include() static Jonathan Tan
2021-11-05 19:45     ` Emily Shaffer
2021-10-29 17:31   ` [WIP v2 2/2] config: include file if remote URL matches a glob Jonathan Tan
2021-11-05 20:24     ` Emily Shaffer
2021-11-06  4:41       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-09  0:25         ` Jonathan Tan
2021-11-09  0:22       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-11-16  0:00 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] Conditional config includes based on remote URL Jonathan Tan
2021-11-16  0:00   ` [PATCH v3 1/2] config: make git_config_include() static Jonathan Tan
2021-11-16  0:00   ` [PATCH v3 2/2] config: include file if remote URL matches a glob Jonathan Tan
2021-11-22 22:59     ` Glen Choo
2021-11-29 17:53       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-11-23  1:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-29 18:18       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-12-01 18:51         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-02 23:14           ` Jonathan Tan
2021-11-23  1:27     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 18:33       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-11-29 20:50         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 20:23 ` [PATCH v4 0/2] Conditional config includes based on remote URL Jonathan Tan
2021-11-29 20:23   ` [PATCH v4 1/2] config: make git_config_include() static Jonathan Tan
2021-11-29 20:23   ` [PATCH v4 2/2] config: include file if remote URL matches a glob Jonathan Tan
2021-12-02  6:57     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-02 17:41       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-11-29 20:48   ` [PATCH v4 0/2] Conditional config includes based on remote URL Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-30  7:51     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-02 23:31 ` [PATCH v5 " Jonathan Tan
2021-12-02 23:31   ` [PATCH v5 1/2] config: make git_config_include() static Jonathan Tan
2021-12-02 23:31   ` [PATCH v5 2/2] config: include file if remote URL matches a glob Jonathan Tan
2021-12-06 22:32     ` Glen Choo
2021-12-07 17:53       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-12-06 18:57   ` [PATCH v5 0/2] Conditional config includes based on remote URL Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-07 17:46     ` Jonathan Tan
2021-12-07 17:56       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-07 18:52         ` Jonathan Tan
2021-12-07 23:23 ` [PATCH v6 " Jonathan Tan
2021-12-07 23:23   ` [PATCH v6 1/2] config: make git_config_include() static Jonathan Tan
2021-12-07 23:23   ` [PATCH v6 2/2] config: include file if remote URL matches a glob Jonathan Tan
2021-12-08 19:19     ` Glen Choo
2021-12-09 22:16       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-12-08 19:55     ` Glen Choo
2021-12-09 22:39       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-12-09 23:33         ` Glen Choo [this message]
2021-12-13 23:35           ` Jonathan Tan
2021-12-10 21:45         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-13 23:37           ` Jonathan Tan
2021-12-14 21:31 ` [PATCH v7 0/2] Conditional config includes based on remote URL Jonathan Tan
2021-12-14 21:31   ` [PATCH v7 1/2] config: make git_config_include() static Jonathan Tan
2021-12-14 21:31   ` [PATCH v7 2/2] config: include file if remote URL matches a glob Jonathan Tan
2021-12-16 21:54     ` Glen Choo
2021-12-28  0:55     ` Elijah Newren
2022-01-10 18:58       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-12-16 21:57   ` [PATCH v7 0/2] Conditional config includes based on remote URL Glen Choo
2021-12-28  1:13   ` Elijah Newren
2021-12-28 23:13     ` Glen Choo
2022-01-10 19:22     ` Jonathan Tan
2022-01-10 20:17       ` Elijah Newren
2022-01-25 13:26         ` Scalar vs JGit, was " Johannes Schindelin
2022-01-18 17:47 ` [PATCH v8 " Jonathan Tan
2022-01-18 17:47   ` [PATCH v8 1/2] config: make git_config_include() static Jonathan Tan
2022-01-18 17:47   ` [PATCH v8 2/2] config: include file if remote URL matches a glob Jonathan Tan
2022-01-18 20:54   ` [PATCH v8 0/2] Conditional config includes based on remote URL Elijah Newren

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