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From: Alexandr Miloslavskiy <alexandr.miloslavskiy@syntevo.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] doc: commit: unify <pathspec> description
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 12:39:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ffcc5857-a6c8-1cf5-f5b6-334e778c576c@syntevo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqk18cqlij.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com>

On 07.11.2019 6:54, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> I am reacting to this from your change that you omitted quoting in
> your reply:
> 
>> +For more details about the <pathspec> syntax, see the 'pathspec' entry
>> +in linkgit:gitglossary[7].
> 
> That sentence is for those who have some notion of <pathspec> but
> does not know enough about its syntax.

In the perfect world, I would expect _every_ 'pathspec' word in text to 
be an HTML-style link to a dedicated article, not just a paragraph in 
glossary.

MSDN is in general a good example [1]: there, it's easy to read only a 
small portion of article, ignoring anything you're not interested in, 
and still have all links at hand.

Regarding dedicated page: the content of 'pathspec' in glossary is 
already long enough for a page, and it could benefit from additional 
examples. Also, having a dedicated page makes linking easier, so that 
user doesn't have to scroll glossary.

Regarding links: I don't really understand what git's doc format allows. 
Is it just pure text in worst (or even average) case?

If it's usually something with clickable links, it could be worth to 
just insert links everywhere.

If it's usually plaintext, then "see the 'pathspec' entry in 
linkgit:gitglossary[7]" is a bit too verbose to repeat on every 
occasion. Still, I'd like to see links everywhere. One big reason is to 
let reader know that the explanation actually exists!

A compromise solution is to give every article header like this:

     This article uses the following terms which are explained
     in linkgit:gitglossary[7]:
     * pathspec
     * tree-ish
     * refspec

If it's close to top of article, then chances are that everyone will 
notice it. Also, it will not require extra verbosity in plaintext.

> CVS does not let you specify <commit> like "master^{/^fix frotz}~4";
> A user a user who is familiar with CVS's commits would still want to
> refer to the section "For details about the <commit> syntax".
> 
> I am not advocating to add the reference to SPECIFYING REVISIONS
> section; instead we should let readers know that every time they see
> <defined word>, they can refer to the glossary for more details.

I now think that my arguments apply to <pathspec> AND <commit> in the 
same way. Indeed a user can't know complex <commit> variants until 
he/she reads it in git docs.

----

[1] 
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/fileapi/nf-fileapi-createfilea

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-07 11:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-04 19:26 [PATCH 0/5] Add --pathspec-from-file option for reset, commit Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-04 19:26 ` [PATCH 1/5] pathspec: add new function to parse file Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-05 15:02   ` Phillip Wood
2019-11-05 19:14     ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-06 15:56     ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-04 19:26 ` [PATCH 2/5] doc: reset: unify <pathspec> description Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-06  4:01   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-06 15:56     ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-07  5:46       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-07 11:05         ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-08  3:04           ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-04 19:26 ` [PATCH 3/5] reset: support the --pathspec-from-file option Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-05 15:03   ` Phillip Wood
2019-11-05 19:22     ` Phillip Wood
2019-11-05 19:36     ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-06 15:56     ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-05 16:14   ` Phillip Wood
2019-11-05 19:37     ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-06  4:40   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-06 15:56     ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-04 19:26 ` [PATCH 4/5] doc: commit: unify <pathspec> description Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-06  4:50   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-06 15:56     ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-07  5:54       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-07 11:39         ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy [this message]
2019-11-04 19:26 ` [PATCH 5/5] commit: support the --pathspec-from-file option Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-05 16:27   ` Phillip Wood
2019-11-05 19:42     ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-06 15:56     ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-12-10 10:42       ` Phillip Wood
2019-12-11 11:43         ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-12-11 14:27           ` Phillip Wood
2019-12-11 15:06             ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-12-11 16:14               ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-11 16:20                 ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-12-12 14:56             ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-06  4:51   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-06 15:51 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Add --pathspec-from-file option for reset, commit Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-06 15:51   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] parse-options.h: add new options `--pathspec-from-file`, `--pathspec-file-nul` Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-06 15:51   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] pathspec: add new function to parse file Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-19  5:59     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-19 16:50       ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-06 15:51   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] doc: reset: unify <pathspec> description Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-19  6:05     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-19 16:52       ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-06 15:51   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] reset: support the `--pathspec-from-file` option Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-06 15:51   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] doc: commit: unify <pathspec> description Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-19  6:16     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-19 16:53       ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-19 17:02       ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-06 15:51   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] commit: support the --pathspec-from-file option Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-19  6:10     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-19 16:56       ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-19 16:48   ` [PATCH v3 0/6] Add --pathspec-from-file option for reset, commit Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-19 16:48     ` [PATCH v3 1/6] parse-options.h: add new options `--pathspec-from-file`, `--pathspec-file-nul` Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-19 16:48     ` [PATCH v3 2/6] pathspec: add new function to parse file Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-19 16:48     ` [PATCH v3 3/6] doc: reset: synchronize <pathspec> description Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-19 16:48     ` [PATCH v3 4/6] reset: support the `--pathspec-from-file` option Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-19 16:48     ` [PATCH v3 5/6] doc: commit: synchronize <pathspec> description Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-19 16:48     ` [PATCH v3 6/6] commit: support the --pathspec-from-file option Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-20  4:04     ` [PATCH v3 0/6] Add --pathspec-from-file option for reset, commit Junio C Hamano
2019-11-20  9:22       ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-12-03 14:02     ` [PATCH v4 00/13] Add --pathspec-from-file option Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 01/13] parse-options.h: add new options `--pathspec-from-file`, `--pathspec-file-nul` Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 02/13] pathspec: add new function to parse file Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 03/13] doc: reset: synchronize <pathspec> description Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 04/13] reset: support the `--pathspec-from-file` option Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 05/13] doc: commit: synchronize <pathspec> description Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 06/13] commit: support the --pathspec-from-file option Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 07/13] cmd_add: prepare for next patch Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 08/13] add: support the --pathspec-from-file option Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 09/13] doc: checkout: remove duplicate synopsis Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 10/13] doc: checkout: fix broken text reference Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 11/13] doc: checkout: synchronize <pathspec> description Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 12/13] doc: restore: " Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 13/13] checkout, restore: support the --pathspec-from-file option Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 16:55       ` [PATCH v4 00/13] Add " Junio C Hamano
2019-12-03 17:06         ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-12-04 19:25           ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-05 10:43             ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy

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