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From: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@gmail.com>
To: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Change set based shallow clone
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 10:35:40 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <edqtna$3v6$1@sea.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vpse7tjp0.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net>

Junio C Hamano wrote:
> I've been postponing thinking about shallow clones with a plan
> to do so when I have absolutely nothing else to do for a solid
> few days.  Since my time is booked pretty much full with day job
> and the ongoing pack-file topics these days, I will most likely
> stick to that plan after I finish this message.
> 
> Not because I think it is an insignificant problem at the fringe
> (I did not say "when I have nothing better to do"), but because
> I feel this is something important (and hard) that requires
> "think about it and only about it straight through for a few
> days, dropping everything else" kind of thinking.
> 
> When you have a ref under .git/refs/ pointing at an object, you
> are making this assertion:
> 
>         The object store associated with this repository
>         (usually, .git/objects and alternates pointed at by
>         .git/objects/info/alternates) holds _all_ objects that
>         are recursively reachable from this object by following
>         tag reference, commit ancestry chain, commit to its
>         tree, and tree to its subtrees and blobs.
> 
> So by definition, a shallow clone is a broken/incomplete
> repository.  Unless we fix the breakage in some way.
> 
> One way to do so which has often been talked about is to use the
> grafts facility.  You cut off the history at some commit, and
> cauterize the commit ancestry chain at that point by telling git
> to pretend that the commit does not have any parent.  While this
> would work after setting it up, in the sense that "git log"
> would stop at the commit and "git fsck-objects" would say
> nothing is missing, it is cumbersome to set up, we do not have
> an easy way to fetch (or clone -- but clone is a special case of
> fetch where the downstream starts out from emptiness) from such
> a repository, unplugging to get histories further back with
> a later fetch is quite involved, and it is not clear what it
> means to further fetch from such a shallow clone.


Pardon my ignorance, but won't having a http:// or ssh based url support in objects/info/alternates
will support such shallow clones. What i am wondering is can't we make the  objects/info/alternates following code
traverse the network transport and make git log work like cvs log in case things are not in local repository. This
should make all the git operation slow, but if you are interested in speed one can clone the repository fully.

-aneesh 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-09-08  5:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-07 19:52 Change set based shallow clone Jon Smirl
2006-09-07 20:21 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-07 20:41   ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-07 21:33     ` Jeff King
2006-09-07 21:51       ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-07 21:37     ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-07 22:14     ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-07 23:09       ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-10 23:20         ` Anand Kumria
2006-09-08  8:48     ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-09-07 22:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-07 22:40   ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-08  3:54   ` Martin Langhoff
2006-09-08  5:30     ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-08  7:15       ` Martin Langhoff
2006-09-08  8:33         ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-08 17:18         ` A Large Angry SCM
2006-09-08 14:20       ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-08 15:50         ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-09  3:13           ` Petr Baudis
2006-09-09  8:39             ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-08  5:05   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V [this message]
2006-09-08  1:01 ` linux
2006-09-08  2:23   ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-08  8:36     ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-08  8:39       ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-08 18:42     ` linux
2006-09-08 21:13       ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-08 22:27         ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-08 23:09         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-08 23:28           ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-08 23:45             ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-09  1:45               ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-10 12:41             ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-10 14:56               ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-10 16:10                 ` linux
2006-09-10 18:00                   ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-10 19:03                     ` linux
2006-09-10 20:00                       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-10 21:00                         ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-11  2:49                           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-10 22:41                         ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-11  2:55                           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-11  3:18                             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-11  6:35                               ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-11 18:54                               ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-11  8:36                             ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-11 14:26                               ` linux
2006-09-11 15:01                                 ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-11 16:47                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-11 21:52                                   ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-11 23:47                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-12  0:06                                       ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-12  0:18                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-12  0:25                                           ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-11  9:04                             ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-10 18:51                 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-11  0:04                   ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-11  0:42                     ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-11  0:03               ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-11  0:41                 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-11  1:04                   ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-11  2:44                     ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-11  5:27                       ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-11  6:08                         ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-11  7:11                           ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-11 17:52                             ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-11  2:11                   ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-09  1:05           ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-09  2:56             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-09  3:23               ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-09  3:31               ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-09  4:04                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-09  8:47                   ` Marco Costalba
2006-09-09 17:33                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-09 18:04                       ` Marco Costalba
2006-09-09 18:44                         ` linux
2006-09-09 19:17                           ` Marco Costalba
2006-09-09 20:05                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-09 20:43                           ` Jeff King
2006-09-09 21:11                             ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-09 21:14                               ` Jeff King
2006-09-09 21:40                             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-09 22:54                               ` Jon Smirl
2006-09-10  0:18                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-10  1:22                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-10  3:49                           ` Marco Costalba
2006-09-10  4:13                             ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-10  4:23                               ` Marco Costalba
2006-09-10  4:46                                 ` Marco Costalba
2006-09-10  4:54                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-10  5:14                                   ` Marco Costalba
2006-09-10  5:46                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-10 15:21                                     ` linux
2006-09-10 18:32                                       ` Marco Costalba
2006-09-11  9:56                                       ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-11 12:39                                         ` linux
2006-09-10  9:49                                   ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-10 10:28                                   ` Josef Weidendorfer
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-09-09 10:31 linux
2006-09-09 13:00 ` Marco Costalba

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