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From: Alexandr Miloslavskiy <alexandr.miloslavskiy@syntevo.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget  <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] reset: support the --pathspec-from-file option
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:56:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <df4cdf1d-1775-9d25-f32b-1abd57dffc31@syntevo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqd0e5vcq9.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com>

I think I have implemented most suggestions in PatchV2. Thanks!

>> 2) Some UI's have started and grown with porcelain commands. Replacing
>>     existing logic with plumbing commands could be cumbersome and prone
>>     to various new problems.
> 
> There is not a lot of sympathy for such argument ;-)

Let's think that this merely reinforces the first point :)

> I do not understand this part.  Wouldn't it natural to expect that
> "-z", when used with "--pathspec-from-file", tell us that the named
> file is NUL delimited collection of records?  What's different about
> "--pathspec-file-null" that it is confusing to all it "-z"?
> 
> I actually do not mind not having "-z" and using only
> "--pathspec-file-null".  A new option with long name that feels
> similar to existing "-z" but does sufficiently different things so
> that it needs a different name, however, feels counter-productive
> for the purpose of using it in the UI that produces commands to be
> learned by end-users.

I didn't want to run into a situation where '-z' suddenly applies to 
multiple things (for example, if later it's decided to allow --patch 
with --pathspec-from-file).

Regarding UI, I think that (insert our UI name here) will not use 
'--pathspec-from-file' unless there are really many files. When it does 
happen, user will probably have an easier time understanding 
'--pathspec-file-nul' then '-z'.

> When I invented the terms "pathspec", "refspec", etc. for this
> project, I meant them to be collective nouns.  A pathspec is a set
> of pathspec elements, each of which is usually given as a separate
> argument on the command line.  So "Read pathspec from file" is good
> (not "Read pathspecs from file").
> 
> And "Pathspec elements" are separated by LF or CR/LF.

I changed that. However, `git grep pathspecs` is quite interesting. My 
own taste says that "pathspecs" is more expected then "pathspec".

> A tangent.  Since we do not allow NUL in a pathspec element, we do
> not even need the "-z" option.  When we read pathspec from a file,
> we can take any of CRLF, LF or NUL as the separator.
> 
> Ah, sorry, that would not help very much.  With "-z" we are allowing
> to express pathspec elements inside which there are embedded LF or
> CR/LF.  Sorry about the noise.

Yes, NUL delimiter allows to avoid escaping.

>   - Quote end-of-here-document (EOF in the above) if you do not rely
>     on parameter interpolation inside the here document; this helps
>     readers by telling them that what is presented is used verbatim.

Tests overwhelmingly prefer escaped form (\EOF) instead, so I used that.

> This feeds "fileA.t<NUL>fileB.t" without <NUL> after "fileB.t" to
> the command.  Intended?

Kind of intended. I changed tests to always use trailing delimiters, and 
also added a new dedicated test without trailing delimiter.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-06 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-04 19:26 [PATCH 0/5] Add --pathspec-from-file option for reset, commit Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-04 19:26 ` [PATCH 1/5] pathspec: add new function to parse file Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-05 15:02   ` Phillip Wood
2019-11-05 19:14     ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-06 15:56     ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-04 19:26 ` [PATCH 2/5] doc: reset: unify <pathspec> description Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-06  4:01   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-06 15:56     ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-07  5:46       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-07 11:05         ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-08  3:04           ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-04 19:26 ` [PATCH 3/5] reset: support the --pathspec-from-file option Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-05 15:03   ` Phillip Wood
2019-11-05 19:22     ` Phillip Wood
2019-11-05 19:36     ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-06 15:56     ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-05 16:14   ` Phillip Wood
2019-11-05 19:37     ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-06  4:40   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-06 15:56     ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy [this message]
2019-11-04 19:26 ` [PATCH 4/5] doc: commit: unify <pathspec> description Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-06  4:50   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-06 15:56     ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-07  5:54       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-07 11:39         ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-04 19:26 ` [PATCH 5/5] commit: support the --pathspec-from-file option Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-05 16:27   ` Phillip Wood
2019-11-05 19:42     ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-06 15:56     ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-12-10 10:42       ` Phillip Wood
2019-12-11 11:43         ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-12-11 14:27           ` Phillip Wood
2019-12-11 15:06             ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-12-11 16:14               ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-11 16:20                 ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-12-12 14:56             ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-06  4:51   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-06 15:51 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Add --pathspec-from-file option for reset, commit Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-06 15:51   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] parse-options.h: add new options `--pathspec-from-file`, `--pathspec-file-nul` Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-06 15:51   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] pathspec: add new function to parse file Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-19  5:59     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-19 16:50       ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-06 15:51   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] doc: reset: unify <pathspec> description Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-19  6:05     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-19 16:52       ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-06 15:51   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] reset: support the `--pathspec-from-file` option Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-06 15:51   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] doc: commit: unify <pathspec> description Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-19  6:16     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-19 16:53       ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-19 17:02       ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-06 15:51   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] commit: support the --pathspec-from-file option Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-19  6:10     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-19 16:56       ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-11-19 16:48   ` [PATCH v3 0/6] Add --pathspec-from-file option for reset, commit Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-19 16:48     ` [PATCH v3 1/6] parse-options.h: add new options `--pathspec-from-file`, `--pathspec-file-nul` Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-19 16:48     ` [PATCH v3 2/6] pathspec: add new function to parse file Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-19 16:48     ` [PATCH v3 3/6] doc: reset: synchronize <pathspec> description Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-19 16:48     ` [PATCH v3 4/6] reset: support the `--pathspec-from-file` option Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-19 16:48     ` [PATCH v3 5/6] doc: commit: synchronize <pathspec> description Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-19 16:48     ` [PATCH v3 6/6] commit: support the --pathspec-from-file option Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-11-20  4:04     ` [PATCH v3 0/6] Add --pathspec-from-file option for reset, commit Junio C Hamano
2019-11-20  9:22       ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-12-03 14:02     ` [PATCH v4 00/13] Add --pathspec-from-file option Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 01/13] parse-options.h: add new options `--pathspec-from-file`, `--pathspec-file-nul` Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 02/13] pathspec: add new function to parse file Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 03/13] doc: reset: synchronize <pathspec> description Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 04/13] reset: support the `--pathspec-from-file` option Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 05/13] doc: commit: synchronize <pathspec> description Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 06/13] commit: support the --pathspec-from-file option Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 07/13] cmd_add: prepare for next patch Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 08/13] add: support the --pathspec-from-file option Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 09/13] doc: checkout: remove duplicate synopsis Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 10/13] doc: checkout: fix broken text reference Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 11/13] doc: checkout: synchronize <pathspec> description Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 12/13] doc: restore: " Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 14:02       ` [PATCH v4 13/13] checkout, restore: support the --pathspec-from-file option Alexandr Miloslavskiy via GitGitGadget
2019-12-03 16:55       ` [PATCH v4 00/13] Add " Junio C Hamano
2019-12-03 17:06         ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy
2019-12-04 19:25           ` Junio C Hamano
2019-12-05 10:43             ` Alexandr Miloslavskiy

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