From: Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin <NMoreyChaisemartin@suse.de>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 3/3] log: add an option to generate cover letter from a branch tip
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:40:34 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d4fec167-aae2-1990-4e24-faaf286f87f5@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqo9o52ep0.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com>
Le 14/11/2017 à 14:05, Junio C Hamano a écrit :
> Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin <NMoreyChaisemartin@suse.de> writes:
>
>> The triple dash is so that the diffstat/shortlog as not seen as
>> part of the cover letter. As said in the cover letter for this
>> series, it kinda breaks legacy behaviour right now. It should
>> either be printed only for cover-at-tip, or a new separator should
>> be added.
> This reminds me of a couple of random thoughts I had, so before I
> disconnect from my terminal and forget about them...
>
> [1] format-patch and am must round-trip.
>
> I mentioned four uses cases around the "cover letter at the
> tip" in my earlier message
>
> https://public-inbox.org/git/xmqqbmk68o9d.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com/
>
> Specifically, (2) we should be able to run "format-patch" and record
> the log message of the empty commit at the tip to the cover letter,
> and (4) we should be able to accept such output with "am" and end up
> with the same sequence of commits as the original (modulo committer
> identity and timestamps). So from the output we produce with this
> step, "am" should be able to split the material that came from the
> original empty commit from the surrounding cruft like shortlog and
> diffstat. The output format of this step needs to be designed with
> that in mind.
This should be the case with the current RFC (apart from the branch description which is kept at the moment).
Things like git am --signoff will break this of course.
>
> [2] reusing cover letter material in merge may not be ideal.
>
> When people write a cover letter, they write different things in it.
> What they wanted to achieve, why they chose the approach they took,
> how the series is organized, which part of the series they find iffy
> and/orneeds special attention from the reviewers, where to find the
> previous iteration, what changed since the previous iterations, etc.
>
> All of them are to help the reviewers, many of who have already
> looked at the previous rounds, to understand and judge this round of
> the submission.
>
> The message in a merge commit as a part of the final history,
> however, cannot refer to anything from "previous rounds", as the
> previous attempts are not part of the final history readers of "git
> log" can refer to whey they are trying to understand the merge.
> What exactly goes in a merge commit and how the messages are phrased
> may be different from project to project, but for this project, I've
> been trying to write them in an end-user facing terms, i.e. they are
> designed in such a way that "git log --first-parent --merges" can be
> read as if they were entries in the release notes, summarizing fixes
> and features by describing their user-visible effects. This is only
> one part of what people write in their cover letters (i.e. "what
> they wanted to achive").
>
> So there probably needs a convention meant to be followed by human
> users when writing cover letters, so a mechanical process can tell
> which part of the text is to be made into the merge commit without
> understanding human languages.
In the long term, I agree this would be nice.
As a first step, could we force the --edit option when using --cover-at-tip ?
The basic merge message would come from the cover letter but can/should be edited to clear the extra stuff out.
Auto-stripping those extra infos, may also conflicts with the point (3) from your previous mail.
If git merge is to keep only the relevant infos, git format-patch from this merge will not be able to access those.
The advantage of a manual edit is that it's the commiter's choice. Keep the info if the branch is to be resubmitted. Drop them once it's merged for good.
Nicolas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-14 13:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-10 10:24 [RFC] cover-at-tip Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin
2017-11-10 15:37 ` Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin
2017-11-10 18:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-13 7:58 ` Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin
2017-11-13 9:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-13 10:30 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-13 10:48 ` Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin
2017-11-13 17:13 ` [RFC 0/3] Add support for --cover-at-tip Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin
2017-11-13 19:40 ` Jonathan Tan
2017-11-13 19:53 ` Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin
2017-11-13 17:13 ` [RFC 1/3] mailinfo: extract patch series id Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin
2017-11-14 5:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-14 9:10 ` Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin
2017-11-13 17:13 ` [RFC 2/3] am: semi working --cover-at-tip Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin
2017-11-14 6:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-14 9:17 ` Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin
2017-11-16 16:21 ` Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin
2017-11-17 1:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-13 17:13 ` [RFC 3/3] log: add an option to generate cover letter from a branch tip Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin
2017-11-14 6:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-14 9:28 ` Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin
2017-11-14 13:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-14 13:40 ` Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin [this message]
2017-11-14 14:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-10 18:28 ` [RFC] cover-at-tip Jonathan Tan
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