From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591061F731 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2019 20:46:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2390340AbfHHUqb (ORCPT ); Thu, 8 Aug 2019 16:46:31 -0400 Received: from mail-qk1-f193.google.com ([209.85.222.193]:40714 "EHLO mail-qk1-f193.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1729780AbfHHUqb (ORCPT ); Thu, 8 Aug 2019 16:46:31 -0400 Received: by mail-qk1-f193.google.com with SMTP id s145so69994800qke.7 for ; Thu, 08 Aug 2019 13:46:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kly4NLBWcCAjh4nOMFuRxvtrSo++ghHO7cVfKNH9Z6c=; b=VvRyD6PXyiHv4hTTtrZsnS7qy3uSvkbw6OzIAZ2P8BvFzkJ0+lj02yTHpQ3U3lIPul N7RY0ff5qeAY+MOk2zaJNoGosRbS74wFpuVQPDtsQZvICgukbNi48pPgUueVtT1G5nt9 mXd7ufxyjq/2rolH/YCC+Rx6sRVU/EOf+L/WaHlL+Ipgp4DtgzVEpyiV6GCC+TWI1419 d41XMgRYSL+Bg2gZwr5H/ku6kI3XkXuubquq2xSqLKyiLkS5mHbEj5POI+nb66/nSlXz N4uLTzJWEui6OqiAaVnp8/XxTuv9lU2eU4tdgruj/zJ6XWXIKKOLlxcxCuG72kZmggX5 iLDw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kly4NLBWcCAjh4nOMFuRxvtrSo++ghHO7cVfKNH9Z6c=; b=L5/ysoxbjxAFTgT2+NXRIPtuvZMiWJX3s24sJgl/NQwmjibiV1mUejt9V17+KhjX47 gC6HNtsUKQgq9GMWqncjwiw/hf7zeQPrJRvQV8Hg1GPtgM7N5FXFkpuM04pkmgvCo38I Ahc1wh4kCfKaIE0dlyn4/txgf/DYE3NHGhzF/VLP9s88AjNwR++35t2hYiZeo0TbiSi/ Td9gFoyiys50q4F3y68TGUa9Gekt0eSMN1x3dZzbSGz+dhF9zsGRe92JUABrRfo+yKoy awc+wEvHUm0cSUyVI/j7l/cx6JRqYZim6z2spZRc1pDgfwtk/vPuHgIOyEQ5SmhL+ITw Yamw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWZd3TMF2VipwvksNWW/R9Y6IeQ9Yv2/shUacUtt84uL0f09JVv qWWH8cqyoEg+ncnLR5J4v1o= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyyPRb4id4VD8GXwWPyENDgdiHa61qYdChSWMBKbxmF0XJNykCQy4VZQG5BavpNDgtRdUucXw== X-Received: by 2002:ae9:ea09:: with SMTP id f9mr15497256qkg.379.1565297190678; Thu, 08 Aug 2019 13:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:4898:6808:13e:7487:521b:1543:4364? ([2001:4898:a800:1010:25bd:521b:1543:4364]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j50sm3009088qtj.30.2019.08.08.13.46.29 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=AEAD-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 08 Aug 2019 13:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 5/5] repo-settings: create feature.experimental setting To: Junio C Hamano , Elijah Newren Cc: Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget , Git Mailing List , Johannes Schindelin , Jeff King , Jakub Narebski , =?UTF-8?B?Tmd1eeG7hW4gVGjDoWkgTmfhu41j?= , carenas@gmail.com, =?UTF-8?B?w4Z2YXIgQXJuZmrDtnLDsA==?= , Derrick Stolee References: <2e153fac22dc5c27fc85efc802785edc0c9d78ad.1564515324.git.gitgitgadget@gmail.com> From: Derrick Stolee Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 16:46:29 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:69.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/69.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On 8/8/2019 4:07 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Elijah Newren writes: > >> However, Stollee's commit message started with "The >> 'feature.experimental' setting includes config options that are not >> committed to become defaults". >> >> If these are settings that are "intended" but not "committed" to >> become defaults, then yes, you're absolutely right. (And in such a >> case, it might be nice to add that distinction to the commit message.) > > My understanding is that the only purpose of feature.experimental > is: "we want to change the default of X this way, but we do not know > if we missed an important use case that would be harmed by such a > change, so let's see if those who volunteered to be guinea pigs by > setting feature.experimental to true find glitches in our thinking > that led us to think the change of the default is a good idea". This is the basic idea. "Here are some new features that we think are good, please opt-in to test them out and find corner cases." Thanks, -Stolee