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From: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
Cc: Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Derrick Stolee <dstolee@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/7] revision.c: begin refactoring --topo-order logic
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 21:51:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bb91d5bb-4220-97b9-dd78-5aed39033e58@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqa7n6zswl.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com>

On 10/21/2018 9:12 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> So if revs->limited is set (but not because revs->topo_order is set),
>> which means A..B queries, we will be still using the old algorithm.
>> All right, though I wonder if it could be improved in the future
>> (perhaps with the help of other graph labelling / indices than
>> generation numbers, maybe a positive-cut index).
>>
>> Do you have an idea why there is no improvement with the new code in
>> this case?
> I didn't get the impression that it would not be possible to improve
> the "--topo A..B" case by using generation numbers from this series.
> Isn't it just because the necessary code has not been written yet?
> In addition to what is needed for "--topo P1 P2 P3..." (all
> positive), limited walk needs to notice the bottom boundary and stop
> traversal.  Having generation numbers would make it slightly easier
> than without, as you know that a positive commit you have will not
> be marked UNINTERESTING due to a negative commit whose ancestors
> have not been explored, as long as that negative commit has a higher
> generation number.  But you still need to adjust the traversal logic
> to properly terminate upon hitting UNINTERESTING one, and also
> propagate the bit down the history, which is not needed at all if
> you only want to support the "positive only" case.

Actually, the code has been written, but the problem is the same as the 
performance issue when I made paint_down_to_common() use generation 
numbers: the algorithm for deciding what is in the set "reachable from A 
but not reachable from B" uses commit-date order as a heuristic to avoid 
walking the entire graph. Yes, the revision parameters specify "limited" 
in order to call "limit_list()", but it uses the same algorithm to 
determine the reachable set difference.

You can test this yourself! Run the following two commands in the Git 
repository using v2.19.1:

     time git log --topo-order -10 master >/dev/null

     time git log --topo-order -10 maint..master >/dev/null

I get 0.39s for the first call and 0.01s for the second. (Note: I 
specified "-10" to ensure we are only writing 10 commits and the output 
size does not factor into the time.) This is because the first walks the 
entire history, while the second uses the heuristic walk to identify a 
much smaller subgraph that the topo-order algorithm uses.

Just as before, by using this algorithm for the B..A case, we are adding 
an extra restriction on the algorithm: always be correct. This results 
in us walking a larger set (everything reachable from B or A with 
generation number at least the smallest generation of a commit reachable 
from only one).

I believe this can be handled by using a smarter generation number (one 
that relies on commit date as a heuristic, but still have enough 
information to guarantee topological relationships), and I've already 
started testing a few of these directions. It is possible now that we 
have concrete graph algorithms to use on real repositories. I hope to 
share a report on my findings in a couple weeks. I'll include how using 
this algorithm compares to the old algorithm in the B..A case.

Thanks,

-Stolee


  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-22  1:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-27 20:41 [PATCH 0/6] Use generation numbers for --topo-order Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-08-27 20:41 ` [PATCH 1/6] prio-queue: add 'peek' operation Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-08-27 20:41 ` [PATCH 2/6] test-reach: add run_three_modes method Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-08-27 20:41 ` [PATCH 3/6] test-reach: add rev-list tests Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-08-27 20:41 ` [PATCH 4/6] revision.c: begin refactoring --topo-order logic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-08-27 20:41 ` [PATCH 5/6] commit/revisions: bookkeeping before refactoring Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-08-27 20:41 ` [PATCH 6/6] revision.c: refactor basic topo-order logic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-08-27 21:23 ` [PATCH 0/6] Use generation numbers for --topo-order Junio C Hamano
2018-09-18  4:08 ` [PATCH v2 " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-09-18  4:08   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] prio-queue: add 'peek' operation Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-09-18  4:08   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] test-reach: add run_three_modes method Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-09-18 18:02     ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-09-19 19:31       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-19 19:38         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-20 21:18           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-18  4:08   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] test-reach: add rev-list tests Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-09-18  4:08   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] revision.c: begin refactoring --topo-order logic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-09-18  4:08   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] commit/revisions: bookkeeping before refactoring Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-09-18  4:08   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] revision.c: refactor basic topo-order logic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-09-18  5:51     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-09-18  6:05   ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Use generation numbers for --topo-order Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-09-21 15:47     ` Derrick Stolee
2018-09-21 17:39   ` [PATCH v3 0/7] " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-09-21 17:39     ` [PATCH v3 1/7] prio-queue: add 'peek' operation Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-09-26 19:15       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-11 13:54       ` Jeff King
2018-09-21 17:39     ` [PATCH v3 2/7] test-reach: add run_three_modes method Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-10-11 13:57       ` Jeff King
2018-09-21 17:39     ` [PATCH v3 3/7] test-reach: add rev-list tests Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-10-11 13:58       ` Jeff King
2018-10-12  4:34         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-21 17:39     ` [PATCH v3 4/7] revision.c: begin refactoring --topo-order logic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-10-11 14:06       ` Jeff King
2018-10-12  6:33       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-12 12:32         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-12 16:15         ` Johannes Sixt
2018-10-13  8:05           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-09-21 17:39     ` [PATCH v3 5/7] commit/revisions: bookkeeping before refactoring Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-10-11 14:21       ` Jeff King
2018-09-21 17:39     ` [PATCH v3 6/7] revision.h: add whitespace in flag definitions Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-09-21 17:39     ` [PATCH v3 7/7] revision.c: refactor basic topo-order logic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-09-27 17:57       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-06 16:56         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-10-11 15:35       ` Jeff King
2018-10-11 16:21         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-25  9:43           ` Jeff King
2018-10-25 13:00             ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-11 22:32       ` Stefan Beller
2018-09-21 21:22     ` [PATCH v3 0/7] Use generation numbers for --topo-order Junio C Hamano
2018-10-16 22:36     ` [PATCH v4 " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-10-16 22:36       ` [PATCH v4 1/7] prio-queue: add 'peek' operation Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-10-16 22:36       ` [PATCH v4 2/7] test-reach: add run_three_modes method Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-10-16 22:36       ` [PATCH v4 3/7] test-reach: add rev-list tests Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-10-21 10:21         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-10-21 15:28           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-16 22:36       ` [PATCH v4 4/7] revision.c: begin refactoring --topo-order logic Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-10-21 15:55         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-10-22  1:12           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-22  1:51             ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2018-10-22  1:55               ` [RFC PATCH] revision.c: use new algorithm in A..B case Derrick Stolee
2018-10-25  8:28               ` [PATCH v4 4/7] revision.c: begin refactoring --topo-order logic Junio C Hamano
2018-10-26 20:56                 ` Jakub Narebski
2018-10-16 22:36       ` [PATCH v4 5/7] commit/revisions: bookkeeping before refactoring Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-10-21 21:17         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-10-16 22:36       ` [PATCH v4 6/7] revision.c: generation-based topo-order algorithm Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-10-22 13:37         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-10-23 13:54           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-26 16:55             ` Jakub Narebski
2018-10-16 22:36       ` [PATCH v4 7/7] t6012: make rev-list tests more interesting Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2018-10-23 15:48         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-10-21 12:57       ` [PATCH v4 0/7] Use generation numbers for --topo-order Jakub Narebski
2018-11-01  5:21       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-01 13:49         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-11-01 23:54           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-01 13:46       ` [PATCH v5 " Derrick Stolee
2018-11-01 13:46         ` [PATCH v5 1/7] prio-queue: add 'peek' operation Derrick Stolee
2018-11-01 13:46         ` [PATCH v5 2/7] test-reach: add run_three_modes method Derrick Stolee
2018-11-01 13:46         ` [PATCH v5 3/7] test-reach: add rev-list tests Derrick Stolee
2018-11-01 13:46         ` [PATCH v5 4/7] revision.c: begin refactoring --topo-order logic Derrick Stolee
2018-11-01 13:46         ` [PATCH v5 5/7] commit/revisions: bookkeeping before refactoring Derrick Stolee
2018-11-01 13:46         ` [PATCH v5 6/7] revision.c: generation-based topo-order algorithm Derrick Stolee
2018-11-01 15:48           ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-11-01 16:12             ` Derrick Stolee
2019-11-08  2:50           ` Mike Hommey
2019-11-11  1:07             ` Derrick Stolee
2019-11-18 23:04               ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-11-01 13:46         ` [PATCH v5 7/7] t6012: make rev-list tests more interesting Derrick Stolee

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