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From: Jeff Hostetler <>
To: Jonathan Nieder <>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <>,
	"Alex Vandiver" <>,,,,,,,,
	"Michael Haggerty" <>
Subject: Re: Including object type and size in object id (Re: Git Merge contributor summit notes)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 17:42:15 -0400
Message-ID: <> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <>

On 3/26/2018 5:00 PM, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> Jeff Hostetler wrote:
> [long quote snipped]
>> While we are converting to a new hash function, it would be nice
>> if we could add a couple of fields to the end of the OID:  the object
>> type and the raw uncompressed object size.
>> If would be nice if we could extend the OID to include 6 bytes of data
>> (4 or 8 bits for the type and the rest for the raw object size), and
>> just say that an OID is a {hash,type,size} tuple.
>> There are lots of places where we open an object to see what type it is
>> or how big it is.  This requires uncompressing/undeltafying the object
>> (or at least decoding enough to get the header).  In the case of missing
>> objects (partial clone or a gvfs-like projection) it requires either
>> dynamically fetching the object or asking an object-size-server for the
>> data.
>> All of these cases could be eliminated if the type/size were available
>> in the OID.
> This implies a limit on the object size (e.g. 5 bytes in your
> example).  What happens when someone wants to encode an object larger
> than that limit?

I could say add a full uint64 to the tail end of the hash, but
we currently don't handle blobs/objects larger then 4GB right now
anyway, right?

5 bytes for the size is just a compromise -- 1TB blobs would be
terrible to think about...
> This also decreases the number of bits available for the hash, but
> that shouldn't be a big issue.

I was suggesting extending the OIDs by 6 bytes while we are changing
the hash function.

> Aside from those two, I don't see any downsides.  It would mean that
> tree objects contain information about the sizes of blobs contained
> there, which helps with virtual file systems.  It's also possible to
> do that without putting the size in the object id, but maybe having it
> in the object id is simpler.
> Will think more about this.
> Thanks for the idea,
> Jonathan


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Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-10  0:06 Git Merge contributor summit notes Alex Vandiver
2018-03-10 13:01 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-03-11  0:02   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-03-12 23:40   ` Jeff King
2018-03-13  0:49     ` Brandon Williams
2018-03-12 23:33 ` Jeff King
2018-03-25 22:58 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-03-26 17:33   ` Jeff Hostetler
2018-03-26 17:56     ` Stefan Beller
2018-03-26 18:54       ` Jeff Hostetler
2018-03-26 18:05     ` Brandon Williams
2018-04-07 20:37       ` Jakub Narebski
2018-03-26 21:00     ` Including object type and size in object id (Re: Git Merge contributor summit notes) Jonathan Nieder
2018-03-26 21:42       ` Jeff Hostetler [this message]
2018-03-26 22:40       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-03-26 20:54   ` Per-object encryption " Jonathan Nieder
2018-03-26 21:22     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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