From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, T_DKIM_INVALID shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9991F51C for ; Mon, 21 May 2018 15:55:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752728AbeEUPz3 (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 May 2018 11:55:29 -0400 Received: from cpanel4.indieserve.net ([199.212.143.9]:56428 "EHLO cpanel4.indieserve.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752092AbeEUPz2 (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 May 2018 11:55:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=crashcourse.ca; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:References: Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Subject:cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=7qM0D6NovjkwXS3wGxRRUXgxRRGZeTq/8GCpImU9aBo=; b=qQmhTCvynEB+9NlcsLsbGrhOZ yn8MLsl7j/wjT7YY9mhl43olBVYvIBLLBI1hQvI8ambcX0tMGlMIf7APdn3qMh9tuKTLlVxceZP/J xDNOfWAb09OH6N8xFzAtOLprrt57TNlNmnjTbUEYCtII6MFDQDRj/umdOGJHhD5m6vxpI0OV989sy VhCstWP0JxCAH/tutmdw1M4RicqagwsS6AbGf+WDhaI1nTuQSxHOje0wPHRYE1ld5FZS9p6u2DdSg 3bD0c1AsGK2o7AJcIS03aaepRTa6+ZY2RpXJM1XbY3gxzSGb0mrVHlbf+V8Fodss1LRW2GK/irITQ kS82eN5ZA==; Received: from cpec03f0ed08c7f-cm68b6fcf980b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com ([174.118.92.171]:51984 helo=localhost.localdomain) by cpanel4.indieserve.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1fKn9i-00GGXm-3W; Mon, 21 May 2018 11:55:26 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 11:53:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert P. J. Day" X-X-Sender: rpjday@localhost.localdomain To: Elijah Newren cc: Git Mailing list Subject: Re: which files are "known to git"? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (LFD 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel4.indieserve.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - vger.kernel.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - crashcourse.ca X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cpanel4.indieserve.net: authenticated_id: rpjday+crashcourse.ca/only user confirmed/virtual account not confirmed X-Authenticated-Sender: cpanel4.indieserve.net: rpjday@crashcourse.ca X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 21 May 2018, Elijah Newren wrote: > Hi Robert, > I had always assumed prior to your email that 'known to Git' meant > 'tracked' or 'recorded in the index'. However, a quick `git grep -i > known.to.git` shows that we're actually not consistent by what we > mean with this phrase. A little test setup: > > $ echo ignoreme >>.gitignore > $ git add .gitignore > $ git commit -m ignoreme > $ touch ignoreme > $ git ls-files -o > ignoreme > $ git ls-files -o --exclude-standard > $ > > >From Documentation/git-clean.txt: > > Normally, only files unknown to Git are removed, but if the `-x` > option is specified, ignored files are also removed. > > This implies that ignored files are not 'unknown to Git', or fixing the > double negative, that ignored files are 'known to Git': > $ git clean -n > $ git clean -nx > Would remove ignoreme > $ uh oh ... i'm just now remembering a discussion once upon a time where this wasn't simply a double negative. IIRC (and someone else help me out here), "known to git" also meant known *not* to be tracked or something like that (as in, ignored files). anyone remember that conversation? rday