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From: Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>
Subject: Re: Considering teaching plumbing to users harmful
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:27:14 -0400 (EDT)
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Johannes Schindelin wrote:

> I had the pleasure of introducing Git to a few users in the last months 
> and in my opinion, restricting myself to teaching them these commands 
> first helped tremendously:
> 
> - clone, pull, status, add, commit, push, log
> 
> All of these were presented without options, to keep things simple.

I completely agree with you.

In the context of remote tracking branches, I usually talk about
'git init' + 'git remote' + 'git fetch' + 'git merge' and/or
'git rebase' which is somehow simpler to really understand than
'git clone' + 'git pull'.  At that point the branch concept is usually
clear.


Nicolas