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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>
Cc: "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Stefan Beller" <sbeller@google.com>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Eric Sunshine" <sunshine@sunshineco.com>,
	"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>, "Johannes Sixt" <j6t@kdbg.org>,
	"Duy Nguyen" <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	"Jakub Narębski" <jnareb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: patch submission process, was Re: [PATCH v6 06/16] merge_recursive: abort properly upon errors
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 10:46:35 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1608071039410.5786@virtualbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160806214325.GA9484@starla>

Hi,

On Sat, 6 Aug 2016, Eric Wong wrote:

> Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
> > Somebody mentioned "configuring it is hard--why does the user have
> > to know SMTP subtleties", and that may be a valid complaint against
> > the primary part of send-email.  The solution for that is not to
> > discard it with bathwater, but make it just as easy as other MSAs,
> > say, Thunderbird, to configure for an average user who can configure
> > these other MUAs.
> 
> Sadly, the average user does not use an MUA, SMTP or IMAP, anymore.
> It's all webmail or apps using proprietary protocols.
> Embrace, extend, extinguish :<

I think you both got it wrong. The original citizens were the mail clients
that allowed you to communicate with other human beings. Webmail is just a
new generation of the same commodity. It is our usage to transport
machine-readable content (and not as an attachment!) that is the intruder.

It's not making things better if we require users to use a second mail
client for sending out patches, and, oh, it does nothing to help with
reintegrating patches back into Git, were they had been before taking that
perilous and lossy journey through that medium called email.

Ciao,
Dscho

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-07  8:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 262+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-29 11:36 [PATCH 0/9] Use merge_recursive() directly in the builtin am Johannes Schindelin
2016-06-29 11:36 ` [PATCH 1/9] Report bugs consistently Johannes Schindelin
2016-06-29 15:11   ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-06-29 18:12   ` Eric Sunshine
2016-06-30  8:41     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-06-29 20:50   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-06-30  8:42     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-06-30  9:23       ` Jeff King
2016-07-01 13:51         ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-01 18:16           ` Jeff King
2016-06-30  5:38   ` Johannes Sixt
2016-06-30  8:45     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-02  5:11   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-07-02  7:25     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-02  8:01       ` Duy Nguyen
2016-07-05 11:32         ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-06-29 11:36 ` [PATCH 2/9] merge-recursive: clarify code in was_tracked() Johannes Schindelin
2016-06-29 18:35   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-01  9:23     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-01 15:31       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-02  7:20         ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-06 15:30           ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-07 11:17             ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-06-29 11:36 ` [PATCH 3/9] Prepare the builtins for a libified merge_recursive() Johannes Schindelin
2016-06-29 18:56   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-01 10:14     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-01 15:43       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-02  7:24         ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-06-29 11:36 ` [PATCH 4/9] merge_recursive: abort properly upon errors Johannes Schindelin
2016-06-29 20:08   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-01 10:16     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-01 15:56       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-02 11:30         ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-06-29 11:36 ` [PATCH 5/9] merge-recursive: avoid returning a wholesale struct Johannes Schindelin
2016-06-29 20:21   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-01 13:48     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-01 15:02       ` Eric Wong
2016-06-29 11:37 ` [PATCH 6/9] merge-recursive: allow write_tree_from_memory() to error out Johannes Schindelin
2016-06-29 11:37 ` [PATCH 7/9] merge-recursive: handle return values indicating errors Johannes Schindelin
2016-06-29 21:06   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-01 11:08     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-06-29 11:37 ` [PATCH 8/9] merge-recursive: switch to returning errors instead of dying Johannes Schindelin
2016-06-29 21:19   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-01 11:14     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-06-29 11:38 ` [PATCH 9/9] am: make a direct call to merge_recursive Johannes Schindelin
2016-06-29 17:45   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-06-30  8:38     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-01 16:03       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-06-29 21:23   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-01 12:46     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-05 11:22 ` [PATCH v2 00/17] Use merge_recursive() directly in the builtin am Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-05 11:23   ` [PATCH v2 01/17] Verify that `git pull --rebase` shows the helpful advice when failing Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-05 11:23   ` [PATCH v2 02/17] Report bugs consistently Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-05 13:05     ` Jakub Narębski
2016-07-05 13:38       ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-06 15:30     ` Duy Nguyen
2016-07-07 11:23       ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-05 11:23   ` [PATCH v2 03/17] Avoid translating bug messages Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-05 11:23   ` [PATCH v2 04/17] merge-recursive: clarify code in was_tracked() Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-05 11:23   ` [PATCH v2 05/17] Prepare the builtins for a libified merge_recursive() Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-05 11:23   ` [PATCH v2 06/17] merge_recursive: abort properly upon errors Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-05 11:23   ` [PATCH v2 07/17] merge-recursive: avoid returning a wholesale struct Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-05 11:23   ` [PATCH v2 08/17] merge-recursive: allow write_tree_from_memory() to error out Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-05 11:23   ` [PATCH v2 09/17] merge-recursive: handle return values indicating errors Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-05 11:23   ` [PATCH v2 10/17] merge-recursive: switch to returning errors instead of dying Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-05 11:23   ` [PATCH v2 11/17] am: counteract gender bias Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-06 21:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-07 11:30       ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-07 15:26         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-07 15:54           ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-07 16:03             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-05 11:24   ` [PATCH v2 12/17] am -3: use merge_recursive() directly again Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-05 11:24   ` [PATCH v2 13/17] merge-recursive: flush output buffer before printing error messages Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-05 11:24   ` [PATCH v2 14/17] merge-recursive: write the commit title in one go Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-05 11:24   ` [PATCH v2 15/17] merge-recursive: offer an option to retain the output in 'obuf' Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-05 11:24   ` [PATCH v2 16/17] Ensure that the output buffer is released after calling merge_trees() Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-05 11:24   ` [PATCH v2 17/17] merge-recursive: flush output buffer even when erroring out Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-06 21:26   ` [PATCH v2 00/17] Use merge_recursive() directly in the builtin am Junio C Hamano
2016-07-07 11:16     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-07 14:35   ` [PATCH v3 00/16] " Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-07 14:35     ` [PATCH v3 01/16] Verify that `git pull --rebase` shows the helpful advice when failing Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-07 14:35     ` [PATCH v3 02/16] Report bugs consistently Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-07 14:35     ` [PATCH v3 03/16] Avoid translating bug messages Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-07 14:35     ` [PATCH v3 04/16] merge-recursive: clarify code in was_tracked() Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-07 14:35     ` [PATCH v3 05/16] Prepare the builtins for a libified merge_recursive() Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-07 14:35     ` [PATCH v3 06/16] merge_recursive: abort properly upon errors Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-07 14:35     ` [PATCH v3 07/16] merge-recursive: avoid returning a wholesale struct Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-07 14:35     ` [PATCH v3 08/16] merge-recursive: allow write_tree_from_memory() to error out Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-07 14:35     ` [PATCH v3 09/16] merge-recursive: handle return values indicating errors Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-07 14:35     ` [PATCH v3 10/16] merge-recursive: switch to returning errors instead of dying Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-07 14:35     ` [PATCH v3 11/16] am -3: use merge_recursive() directly again Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-07 14:36     ` [PATCH v3 12/16] merge-recursive: flush output buffer before printing error messages Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-07 14:36     ` [PATCH v3 13/16] merge-recursive: write the commit title in one go Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-07 14:36     ` [PATCH v3 14/16] merge-recursive: offer an option to retain the output in 'obuf' Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-07 14:36     ` [PATCH v3 15/16] Ensure that the output buffer is released after calling merge_trees() Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-07 14:36     ` [PATCH v3 16/16] merge-recursive: flush output buffer even when erroring out Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-12 21:27     ` [PATCH v3 00/16] Use merge_recursive() directly in the builtin am Junio C Hamano
2016-07-14 14:03       ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-14 19:39         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-19  0:17           ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-19 12:31             ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-19 14:28               ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-19 19:33                 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-22 12:23     ` [PATCH v4 " Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-22 12:24       ` [PATCH v4 01/16] Verify that `git pull --rebase` shows the helpful advice when failing Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-25 21:39         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-26 12:21           ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-22 12:24       ` [PATCH v4 02/16] Report bugs consistently Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-25 21:44         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-25 22:17           ` Jeff King
2016-07-25 22:36             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-26 12:24               ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-22 12:24       ` [PATCH v4 03/16] Avoid translating bug messages Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-22 12:25       ` [PATCH v4 04/16] merge-recursive: clarify code in was_tracked() Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-22 12:25       ` [PATCH v4 05/16] Prepare the builtins for a libified merge_recursive() Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-22 12:25       ` [PATCH v4 06/16] merge_recursive: abort properly upon errors Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-25 22:09         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-26 12:26           ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-22 12:25       ` [PATCH v4 07/16] merge-recursive: avoid returning a wholesale struct Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-22 12:25       ` [PATCH v4 08/16] merge-recursive: allow write_tree_from_memory() to error out Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-22 12:25       ` [PATCH v4 09/16] merge-recursive: handle return values indicating errors Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-22 12:25       ` [PATCH v4 10/16] merge-recursive: switch to returning errors instead of dying Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-22 12:25       ` [PATCH v4 11/16] am -3: use merge_recursive() directly again Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-25 22:19         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-26 12:30           ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-26 17:12             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-22 12:25       ` [PATCH v4 12/16] merge-recursive: flush output buffer before printing error messages Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-22 12:25       ` [PATCH v4 13/16] merge-recursive: write the commit title in one go Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-22 12:25       ` [PATCH v4 14/16] merge-recursive: offer an option to retain the output in 'obuf' Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-22 12:25       ` [PATCH v4 15/16] Ensure that the output buffer is released after calling merge_trees() Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-22 12:26       ` [PATCH v4 16/16] merge-recursive: flush output buffer even when erroring out Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-26 16:05       ` [PATCH v5 00/16] Use merge_recursive() directly in the builtin am Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-26 16:05         ` [PATCH v5 01/16] t5520: verify that `pull --rebase` shows the helpful advice when failing Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-26 16:05         ` [PATCH v5 02/16] Report bugs consistently Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-26 16:05         ` [PATCH v5 03/16] Avoid translating bug messages Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-26 16:05         ` [PATCH v5 04/16] merge-recursive: clarify code in was_tracked() Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-26 16:06         ` [PATCH v5 05/16] Prepare the builtins for a libified merge_recursive() Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-26 16:06         ` [PATCH v5 06/16] merge_recursive: abort properly upon errors Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-26 16:06         ` [PATCH v5 07/16] merge-recursive: avoid returning a wholesale struct Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-26 16:06         ` [PATCH v5 08/16] merge-recursive: allow write_tree_from_memory() to error out Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-26 16:06         ` [PATCH v5 09/16] merge-recursive: handle return values indicating errors Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-26 16:06         ` [PATCH v5 10/16] merge-recursive: switch to returning errors instead of dying Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-26 16:06         ` [PATCH v5 11/16] am -3: use merge_recursive() directly again Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-26 16:06         ` [PATCH v5 12/16] merge-recursive: flush output buffer before printing error messages Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-27 21:37           ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-27 21:53             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-01  9:18             ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-26 16:06         ` [PATCH v5 13/16] merge-recursive: write the commit title in one go Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-27 22:36           ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-01  9:53             ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-26 16:06         ` [PATCH v5 14/16] merge-recursive: offer an option to retain the output in 'obuf' Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-27 22:09           ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-28  0:17             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-01  9:34               ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-01 19:09                 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-02  8:01                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-02 21:19                     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-01  9:35             ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-26 16:06         ` [PATCH v5 15/16] Ensure that the output buffer is released after calling merge_trees() Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-27 22:15           ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-01  9:40             ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-26 16:06         ` [PATCH v5 16/16] merge-recursive: flush output buffer even when erroring out Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-27 22:20           ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-01  9:49             ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-01 18:32               ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-01 11:36         ` [PATCH v6 00/16] Use merge_recursive() directly in the builtin am Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-01 11:36           ` [PATCH v6 01/16] t5520: verify that `pull --rebase` shows the helpful advice when failing Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-01 11:36           ` [PATCH v6 02/16] Report bugs consistently Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-01 11:43           ` [PATCH v6 03/16] Avoid translating bug messages Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-01 11:44           ` [PATCH v6 04/16] merge-recursive: clarify code in was_tracked() Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-01 11:44           ` [PATCH v6 05/16] Prepare the builtins for a libified merge_recursive() Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-01 18:40             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-02  8:02               ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-01 11:44           ` [PATCH v6 06/16] merge_recursive: abort properly upon errors Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-01 18:41             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-02  8:12               ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-02 21:26                 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-03 11:59                   ` patch submission process, was " Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-03 15:33                     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-03 16:07                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-03 17:47                         ` Stefan Beller
2016-08-04 15:58                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-04 16:42                             ` Stefan Beller
2016-08-04 20:17                               ` Eric Wong
2016-08-05  8:24                                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-05  8:50                                   ` Eric Wong
2016-08-05  8:20                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-05 17:59                                 ` Stefan Beller
2016-08-05 19:21                                   ` Josh Triplett
2016-08-05 21:01                                   ` Eric Wong
2016-08-06  8:58                                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-06 18:33                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-06 21:43                                       ` Eric Wong
2016-08-07  8:46                                         ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2016-08-08 17:22                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-09 11:48                                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-07 11:09                                     ` Lars Schneider
2016-08-08 17:29                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-09 11:41                                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-09 17:25                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-05 18:46                                 ` Eric Wong
2016-08-06  8:44                                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-05 11:59                               ` Richard Ipsum
2016-08-05 15:24                                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-06 16:45                                   ` Richard Ipsum
2016-08-08 22:20                             ` Michael Haggerty
2016-08-08 22:36                               ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-08 23:20                                 ` Michael Haggerty
2016-08-09  8:11                                   ` Michael J Gruber
2016-08-09 10:57                                     ` Jeff King
2016-08-10  0:46                                       ` Josh Triplett
2016-08-09 11:37                                   ` Jeff King
2016-08-09 17:34                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-09 17:50                                       ` Jeff King
2016-08-09 19:19                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-09 18:43                                     ` Duy Nguyen
2016-08-09 18:50                                       ` Stefan Beller
2016-08-09 18:58                                         ` Jeff King
2016-08-09 18:55                                       ` Jeff King
2016-08-09 18:36                                   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-08-09 18:38                                     ` Duy Nguyen
2016-08-09  4:22                               ` Duy Nguyen
2016-08-09  9:17                                 ` Richard Ipsum
2016-08-09 10:34                                   ` Jeff King
2016-08-09 10:19                                 ` Michael Haggerty
2016-08-09 12:07                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-09 18:28                               ` Eric Wong
2016-08-10  0:55                                 ` Josh Triplett
2016-08-10  1:57                                   ` Eric Wong
2016-08-10  7:30                                   ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-10 19:30                                     ` Josh Triplett
2016-08-10 21:14                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-05 14:55                         ` Duy Nguyen
2016-08-05 15:13                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-05 18:42                           ` Philip Oakley
2016-08-06  8:38                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-06 17:45                               ` Philip Oakley
2016-08-03 16:34                       ` Jeff King
2016-08-03 16:53                         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-03 16:56                           ` Jeff King
2016-08-04 15:29                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-04 18:07                               ` Jeff King
2016-08-04 21:12                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-05  8:17                                   ` Jeff King
2016-08-05 15:51                                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-02 22:28                 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-01 11:44           ` [PATCH v6 07/16] merge-recursive: avoid returning a wholesale struct Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-04 18:09             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-01 11:44           ` [PATCH v6 08/16] merge-recursive: allow write_tree_from_memory() to error out Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-04 18:14             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-01 11:44           ` [PATCH v6 09/16] merge-recursive: handle return values indicating errors Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-01 11:44           ` [PATCH v6 10/16] merge-recursive: switch to returning errors instead of dying Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-01 11:44           ` [PATCH v6 11/16] am -3: use merge_recursive() directly again Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-01 11:44           ` [PATCH v6 12/16] merge-recursive: flush output buffer before printing error messages Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-01 11:44           ` [PATCH v6 13/16] merge-recursive: write the commit title in one go Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-01 11:44           ` [PATCH v6 14/16] merge-recursive: offer an option to retain the output in 'obuf' Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-01 11:44           ` [PATCH v6 15/16] Ensure that the output buffer is released after calling merge_trees() Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-04 18:18             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-01 11:44           ` [PATCH v6 16/16] merge-recursive: flush output buffer even when erroring out Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-04 18:20             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-05 15:41               ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-08-06 16:37                 ` Junio C Hamano

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