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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: gc and repack ignore .git/*HEAD when checking reachability
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 12:47:06 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1607121243470.6426@virtualbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqinwc9fe2.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com>

Hi Junio,

On Mon, 11 Jul 2016, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> writes:
> 
> >> No, the point is, refs subsystem needs to know which refs is per-repo,
> >> which is per-worktree. So far the rules are  "everything under refs,
> >> except a few known exceptions, is per-repo" and "everything directly
> >> under $GIT_DIR is per-worktree", which work fine. But if you allow to
> >> move per-worktree to "refs" freely, then the "known exceptions" will
> >> have to be updated every time a new per-worktree ref appears. It'll be
> >> easier to modify the first rule as "everything under refs, except some
> >> legacy exceptions and refs/worktree, is per-repo".
> >
> > Given the substantial pain and suffering I have due to per-worktree
> > reflogs (and those are *just* HEAD's reflogs!), it appears to me that
> > per-worktree refs would be a particularly poor feature.
> >
> > I agree that HEAD needs to be per-worktree, but already the fact that the
> > HEADs of the worktrees, along with their reflogs, are *not* visible to
> > all other worktrees causes substantial trouble.
> 
> Not so fast; it cuts both ways.
> 
> People who want multiple worktrees with branches checked out to work
> in would want to do per-worktree things like bisection, which needs
> tons more state than we'd be comfortable having directly under
> $GIT_DIR (e.g. they may also want "git merge" or "git pull", which
> would use MERGE_HEAD and FETCH_HEAD that are per-worktree and not
> under refs/; "git bisect" would want to mark number of commits to
> denote the perimeter of the area of the history being bisected and
> they live refs/bisect/).

Sure, `git bisect` would need to realize that it is running in a worktree
separate from the original one and use a different ref.

> And when you are bisecting in the worktree dedicated for a topic,
> it is a feature that your other worktrees do not need to see how
> much history you narrowed down in that topic.

If you intentionally hide bisections from other worktrees, you will
invariably end up with the same problems I faced with auto-gc: in a
worktree, it is *much, much easier* to forget a bisect in progress.

In other words, your comments make me even more certain that per-worktree
refs are undesirable.

Ciao,
Dscho

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-12 10:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-08  2:59 gc and repack ignore .git/*HEAD when checking reachability Josh Triplett
2016-07-08  4:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-08  6:44   ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-08 17:14     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-08 19:25       ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-07-08 20:30         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-08 23:50           ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-07-09  5:23             ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-08 20:29       ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-09  7:35       ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-09 14:09         ` Josh Triplett
2016-07-09 16:45           ` Duy Nguyen
2016-07-10 10:59             ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-10 11:04               ` Duy Nguyen
2016-07-10 14:16                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-10 15:01                   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-07-11  6:07                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-11 18:52                   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-12 10:47                     ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2016-07-12 15:26                       ` Jeff King
2016-07-12 15:46                         ` Duy Nguyen
2016-07-12 15:51                           ` Jeff King
2016-07-12 16:13                             ` Duy Nguyen
2016-07-13  8:20                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-13 14:54                                 ` Duy Nguyen
2016-07-13 18:59                                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-15 15:46                                     ` Duy Nguyen

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