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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Newton-Raphson, was Re: Performance issue of 'git branch'
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:24:21 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0907240114410.8306@pacific.mpi-cbg.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.00.0907232310220.22113@hermes-2.csi.cam.ac.uk>

Hi,

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Tony Finch wrote:

> I think Newton-Raphson is a brilliant but misleading idea. (As Junio 
> said, "egg of Columbus" - it certainly blew my mind!) However, Newton's 
> method works with smooth curves, but a pack index is a straight line 
> plus stochastic deviations. If you try to apply Newton's method then the 
> more you zoom in the more the random variations will send you away from 
> the place you want to be.

No.

Think about it, absent any further information than "it is a hash, i.e. 
distributed pretty equally in _any_ byte", even subsets of a sorted list 
will me more or less linear.  And assuming that they are linear is _still_ 
your best bet.

Assuming that subsets of said sorted list will _still_ minimize the 
average number of steps to take until you find the correct entry.

Unless you have more information about the nature of the hashes, of 
course.

> This should give you O(1) seeks in the index per object lookup.

There is no way to achieve that, best thing you can hope for is _expected_ 
O(1) (e.g. with a hashmap, with exponential worst case).

Ciao,
Dscho

  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-23 23:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-22 23:59 Performance issue of 'git branch' Carlos R. Mafra
2009-07-23  0:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-23  0:51   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-23  0:55     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-23  2:02       ` Carlos R. Mafra
2009-07-23  2:28         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-23 12:42           ` Jakub Narebski
2009-07-23 14:45             ` Carlos R. Mafra
2009-07-23 16:25             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-23  1:22   ` Carlos R. Mafra
2009-07-23  2:20     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-23  2:23       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-23  3:08         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-23  3:21           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-23 17:47             ` Tony Finch
2009-07-23 18:57               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-23 22:48                 ` Newton-Raphson, was " Tony Finch
2009-07-23 23:24                   ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2009-07-23 23:50                     ` Tony Finch
2009-07-24  0:43                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-07-23  3:18         ` Carlos R. Mafra
2009-07-23  3:27           ` Carlos R. Mafra
2009-07-23  3:40           ` Carlos R. Mafra
2009-07-23  3:47           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-23  4:10             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-23  5:13               ` Junio C Hamano
2009-07-23  5:17               ` Carlos R. Mafra
2009-07-23  4:40         ` Junio C Hamano
2009-07-23  5:36           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-23  5:52             ` Junio C Hamano
2009-07-23  6:04               ` Junio C Hamano
2009-07-23 17:19                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-23 16:07           ` Carlos R. Mafra
2009-07-23 16:19             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-23 16:53               ` Carlos R. Mafra
2009-07-23 19:05                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-23 19:13                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-23 19:55                     ` Carlos R. Mafra
2009-07-24 20:36                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-24 20:47                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-24 21:21                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-24 22:13                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-24 22:18                               ` david
2009-07-24 22:42                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-24 22:46                                   ` david
2009-07-25  2:39                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-25  2:53                                       ` Daniel Barkalow
2009-08-07  4:21                               ` Jeff King
2009-07-24 22:54                             ` Theodore Tso
2009-07-24 22:59                               ` Shawn O. Pearce
2009-07-24 23:28                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-07-26 17:07                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-26 17:16                                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-07-24 23:46                             ` Carlos R. Mafra
2009-07-25  0:41                               ` Carlos R. Mafra
2009-07-25 18:04                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-25 18:57                                   ` Timo Hirvonen
2009-07-25 19:06                                     ` Reece Dunn
2009-07-25 20:31                                     ` Mike Hommey
2009-07-25 21:02                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-25 21:13                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-25 23:23                                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-07-26  4:49                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-26 16:29                                               ` Theodore Tso
2009-07-26  7:54                                         ` Mike Hommey
2009-07-26 10:16                                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-07-26 10:23                                             ` demerphq
2009-07-26 10:27                                               ` demerphq
2009-07-25 21:04                                     ` Carlos R. Mafra
2009-07-23 16:48         ` Anders Kaseorg
2009-07-23 19:03           ` Carlos R. Mafra
2009-07-23  0:23 ` SZEDER Gábor
2009-07-23  2:25   ` Carlos R. Mafra

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