From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Johannes Schindelin Subject: Re: [kernel.org users] [RFD] On deprecating "git-foo" for builtins Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:34:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: References: <7vprnzt7d5.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> <1219664940.9583.42.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <7vy72kek6y.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> <20080826145719.GB5046@coredump.intra.peff.net> <7vr68b8q9p.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> <20080827001705.GG23698@parisc-linux.org> <20080827225233.GA11005@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Matthew Wilcox , Junio C Hamano , Jeff King , David Woodhouse , git@vger.kernel.org, users@kernel.org To: Russell King X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Thu Aug 28 17:30:47 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KYjSI-0003w3-IV for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:30:39 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753199AbYH1P3d (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:29:33 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752957AbYH1P3d (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:29:33 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:52473 "HELO mail.gmx.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751815AbYH1P3d (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:29:33 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 28 Aug 2008 15:29:31 -0000 Received: from pacific.mpi-cbg.de (EHLO pacific.mpi-cbg.de) [141.5.10.38] by mail.gmx.net (mp061) with SMTP; 28 Aug 2008 17:29:31 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1490710 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/eHHJwNtDeqABKqey8W6lOgJJEliqLy5CM7zSGjp IkiDy6Z9LUzItg X-X-Sender: schindelin@pacific.mpi-cbg.de.mpi-cbg.de In-Reply-To: <20080827225233.GA11005@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (DEB 882 2007-12-20) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.63 Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Hi, On Wed, 27 Aug 2008, Russell King wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 06:17:05PM -0600, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 01:39:30PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: > > > When I hear something like what David Woodhouse said in this thread, I > > > should be feeling "People -- those of you who claimed to be the silent > > > majority -- see, I told you so! This is a very bad move". > > > > > > But I can't. People who complain _now_ just annoy me even more. Why > > > weren't you defending the backward compatibility with me, which you seem > > > to value it so much, perhaps even more than I did back then? Why are you > > > wasting our time bringing it up again, instead of joining the discussion > > > when it _mattered_ back then? > > > > We didn't know the conversation was going on. Why should we? We only > > use the tool, not develop it. I'm also not on the mailing lists for > > mutt, vim, gcc, binutils, openssh, grep, xchat, mozilla, gnome, xpdf or > > any of the dozens of other programs I use on a daily basis. > > Well said Matthew, as a git _user_ I completely agree. So are you effectively saying that we should have asked on all the mailing list of existing and potential Git users to ask their opinions? Giggling, Dscho