From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS53758 23.128.96.0/24 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F431F5AE for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2021 19:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230409AbhFGTI0 (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Jun 2021 15:08:26 -0400 Received: from mail-ot1-f42.google.com ([209.85.210.42]:42807 "EHLO mail-ot1-f42.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230264AbhFGTIY (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Jun 2021 15:08:24 -0400 Received: by mail-ot1-f42.google.com with SMTP id w23-20020a9d5a970000b02903d0ef989477so13406700oth.9 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2021 12:06:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lfGWYFrViV9A2t0HMeQgGyxVUtyAMGg06H8D97G+PLc=; b=uAl6JPdWtEJTLJIu5IAFFuZGHdnL2AHsibhErHdCSOxD3b1f4naymeL+ggrXcGx9de UCOh45zkQffzTFJYvAMPeMl9AG8X3SZ7N1W9zXpAoK2AlX2hM+F1fc1jFxIe/2mUTPhI sS8rY44p4/ygJ+s/7yX4emuc66XIjQi1nESV8YE4SizYM3s5PFz1hBXF0Wev7TkG8Lw0 so48lE9WFAWqZ/U6VmOmnou9u1PHg7Y7xY9vYk/eYohJAENy8HprJMgMBi85sW6xoCmu OPE38MiHXQQ1NQ5oadUEM2IOQSDACsBRyXGJDG6SYQnVEBWIcf2IagQAj5w58X1ZgZYU i80Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lfGWYFrViV9A2t0HMeQgGyxVUtyAMGg06H8D97G+PLc=; b=qRKELSbwpyge0PfaPj3yZceTCOhEPlVJGs55d0FvBwyrnTx+AbSJtTQUrNy/Kq3CLd e3DOf2Ki6tm/mSsbs1IL4Mv5R9/hl5vDswDc4sCNi/syRnUP488T+I3UKmd7KatxtKXn v0sgTBEq1wDh2XRwC+XCrj971/lalhfSBOtycqKufilHn4Hu7Qf7SXXN1aWJV8EZvxoa CyHwvQUXH3Gy1ZANRrAAl5nf0RjYLn+ODB8HSIuh0tx0vQmMRi0dqsxQz7sXiN3ozHdq K6SteHof6lYto4+Rikn80uPwuugbIJtjjDQkya1YXJnY+XZi49B8kcZqSih+kc6dTrpp FpHA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532swL3vevIpz1nZA6/+ScI5LONZflSUnCHuDqa9hgXT1g3OYHMI JE0JDlRsfWa0+VBoR1Lnok8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwzMcjRmtdKoDAzR7xQlBrzvyN1j29wvcFTmfXScpVrFRoOgXMLAeR89b45tYIS7QW0z9aIqg== X-Received: by 2002:a9d:5a12:: with SMTP id v18mr14411437oth.306.1623092721947; Mon, 07 Jun 2021 12:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2600:1700:e72:80a0:58fa:fc7:3955:c1d5? ([2600:1700:e72:80a0:58fa:fc7:3955:c1d5]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 21sm1942856otd.21.2021.06.07.12.05.21 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Jun 2021 12:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] CodingGuidelines: recommend singular they To: Junio C Hamano , Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, sandals@crustytoothpaste.net, jrnieder@gmail.com, emilyshaffer@google.com, Derrick Stolee , Derrick Stolee References: From: Derrick Stolee Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 15:05:19 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On 6/7/2021 2:56 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote: > "Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget" writes: > >> To futher justify singular "they" as an acceptable grammatical concept, >> I include the careful research of brian m. carlson who collected their >> thoughts on this matter [2] (lightly edited): > > The use of "their" here I found going overboard, given that (1) it > is outside the topic of this change, where you are not referring to > a non-specific person, and (2) as Brian's siglines indicate, the > preferred pronouns for the particular person you are referring to is > "he/him or they/them". I'll admit that I was trying to be instructive in my commit message whenever possible, so specifically chose that option among brian's preferred pronouns. If I misinterpreted the purpose of "he/him or they/them" then I will absolutely change this instance. For my part, I did run this message by brian before sending the patch, to be sure that my use of the quote was appropriate. (Also, I'm purposefully lower-casing "brian m. carlson" to match chosen email signatures, but perhaps that is also incorrect?) Thanks, -Stolee