From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Dmitry Kakurin" Subject: Re: [RFC] Convert builin-mailinfo.c to use The Better String Library. Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 17:32:09 -0700 Message-ID: References: <46DDC500.5000606@etek.chalmers.se> <1189004090.20311.12.camel@hinata.boston.redhat.com> <4AFD7EAD1AAC4E54A416BA3F6E6A9E52@ntdev.corp.microsoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Linus Torvalds" , "Matthieu Moy" , Git To: "Johannes Schindelin" X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sat Sep 08 02:32:25 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IToFF-0005Ij-96 for gcvg-git@gmane.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2007 02:32:17 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751889AbXIHAcL (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Sep 2007 20:32:11 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751849AbXIHAcL (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Sep 2007 20:32:11 -0400 Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.187]:22717 "EHLO rv-out-0910.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751691AbXIHAcJ (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Sep 2007 20:32:09 -0400 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k20so564063rvb for ; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 17:32:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=LdVlF7RlAVFClJ2m5W8rgTWgRCgftpR/6jZxHIirykc=; b=dX9b9PWFzEVRROHp42YtuL567pWItycp7GHdbX/Dyuh6sO/7nhGlH9MIaU66AhUkaZ0dt3ah8WFxPesYe0ld6mlfeTIP0TZMUznt7fes+DIcdHWAe/vsH6f3Z1ksoe5Q0nsnLV1a/WtD18lV0SmI3iBIV2S1Hzgp91jt6GTojec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GuZKP/ZwcxTnvbR9olyApM/aAiFTIqqmu1C8JuizkBS4BDDICxNcGa+GDJ9ec7nMPywkZ6wth8Q0qFoSWqgjFCpnLnClzWzuQv6CEjiwM4sdHwdtrJA2YKKHHcxEYiLbCwqSbisev5V4S/7HIhRu6w/wUJv38kNxLSUjoKGs7pM= Received: by 10.140.157.12 with SMTP id f12mr950918rve.1189211529220; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 17:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.21.17 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 17:32:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On 9/7/07, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Dmitry Kakurin wrote: > > > Anyway I don't mean to start a religious C vs. C++ war. > > You have a very strange way of not meaning to start a C vs. C++ war. I honestly didn't. I didn't even think it's possible. In the environment of mainstream commercial software development the last war on this subj was over 8-10 years ago. Even wars like "do we use exceptions/templates/stl" are pretty much over. Now days it's "do we use Boost", or "do we use template metaprogramming". But even more often it's Java/C# vs. C++. That's why I was wondering how come C was chosen for Git. > > It's a matter of beliefs and as such pointless. > > No, it's not. As has been shown by some very good _arguments_. Once you > have facts to back up your claims, it is not any belief any longer. Well I've heard *opinions* and anecdotal evidence. No facts though. And it's not surprising. There could be no hard facts in such a matter. It always boils down to "most of all, I want my software to be X" where X is different for different people (fast,maintainable,quick to market, scalable, beautiful, etc ... to name a few). With different values of X any debate is pointless. And X is exactly the matter of believes. Anyway my curiosity is satisfied (thru the roof so to speak) and I think it's enough on the subj. It has reminded me of good old times though. -- - Dmitry