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From: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: rsbecker@nexbridge.com, "'Karthik Nayak'" <karthik.188@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org,
	"'Kristoffer Haugsbakk'" <code@khaugsbakk.name>,
	"'Taylor Blau'" <me@ttaylorr.com>,
	"'Jean-Noël AVILA'" <jn.avila@free.fr>,
	"'Eric Sunshine'" <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 07/14] builtin/config: introduce "list" subcommand
Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 09:51:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZjiL7vu5kCVwpsLd@tanuki> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqjzkaanr1.fsf@gitster.g>

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On Fri, May 03, 2024 at 09:01:06AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> <rsbecker@nexbridge.com> writes:
> 
> >>> +DEPRECATED MODES
> >>> +----------------
> >>> +
> >>> +The following modes have been deprecated in favor of subcommands. It
> >>> +is recommended to migrate to the new syntax.
> >>> +
> >>> +-l::
> >>> +--list::
> >>> +	Replaced by `git config list`.
> 
> Can you trim quotes in your response that has no relevance to what
> you are responding to?
> 
> > Removing the --list option is going to break backward
> > compatibility for users who script the use of config for things
> > like setup, clone automation, etc.
> 
> Yes, that is why this is merely a deprecation.

I will probably send a follow-up patch series that converts other tests
to use the new syntax and that does some more cleanups. I was pondering
whether we want to introduce a document as part of that patch series
that starts to keep track of upcoming removals for a potential Git 3.0
release.

There are multiple items that could be added:

  - Removal of the old syntax of git-config(1).

  - Removal of the dumb HTTP transport.

  - Removal of `info/grafts`.

There are probably other items.

In any case, the old actions are here to stay for the foreseeable future
until we commit to a breaking major release.

> > Adding list as a sub-command could (but should not) cause
> > ambiguities between a list and configuration value.
> 
> Because there is no sectionless variable, there exists no ambiguity.
> 
> In other words,
> 
>     $ git config list
> 
> cannot be asking for the value of the variable "list", because such
> a variable cannot exist.  When you start your command with
> 
>     $ git config list ...
> 
> whatever other tokens follow that token "list" on the command line,
> it is a "--list" subcommand.  A traditional and lazy "get a single
> variable" without an explicit subcommand would look like
> 
>     $ git config section.variable
> 
> that is a short-hand to
> 
>     $ git config --get section.variable
> 
> and would become
> 
>     $ git config get section.variable
> 
> in the new world order.

Thanks for the thorough explanation, I have nothing to add!

Patrick

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-06  7:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-06 11:31 [PATCH 0/8] builtin/config: introduce subcommands Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 11:31 ` [PATCH 1/8] builtin/config: move option array around Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 11:31 ` [PATCH 2/8] builtin/config: move "fixed-value" option to correct group Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 11:31 ` [PATCH 3/8] builtin/config: use `OPT_CMDMODE()` to specify modes Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 23:52   ` Taylor Blau
2024-03-07  7:02     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 11:31 ` [PATCH 4/8] builtin/config: move modes into separate functions Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 11:31 ` [PATCH 5/8] builtin/config: track subcommands by action Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 21:54   ` Jean-Noël AVILA
2024-03-07  6:37     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-07  0:10   ` Taylor Blau
2024-03-07  6:36     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 11:31 ` [PATCH 6/8] builtin/config: introduce subcommands Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 21:38   ` Karthik Nayak
2024-03-07  7:14     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 11:31 ` [PATCH 7/8] t1300: exercise both old- and new-style modes Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 11:32 ` [PATCH 8/8] Documentation/git-config: update to new-style syntax Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-07  6:57   ` Eric Sunshine
2024-03-07  7:33     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-06 17:06 ` [PATCH 0/8] builtin/config: introduce subcommands Junio C Hamano
2024-03-06 23:46   ` Taylor Blau
2024-03-06 23:52     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-03-07  0:13       ` Taylor Blau
2024-03-07  0:31     ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-07  6:31     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-07 13:22       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-03-06 22:49 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-03-11 23:19 ` [PATCH v2 00/13] " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:19   ` [PATCH v2 01/13] builtin/config: move option array around Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:19   ` [PATCH v2 02/13] builtin/config: move "fixed-value" option to correct group Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:20   ` [PATCH v2 03/13] builtin/config: use `OPT_CMDMODE()` to specify modes Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:20   ` [PATCH v2 04/13] builtin/config: pull out function to handle config location Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:20   ` [PATCH v2 05/13] builtin/config: pull out function to handle `--null` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:20   ` [PATCH v2 06/13] builtin/config: introduce "list" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-13  2:45     ` Eric Sunshine
2024-03-27  8:42       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:20   ` [PATCH v2 07/13] builtin/config: introduce "get" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-13  3:11     ` Eric Sunshine
2024-03-27  8:42       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:20   ` [PATCH v2 08/13] builtin/config: introduce "set" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:21   ` [PATCH v2 09/13] builtin/config: introduce "unset" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:21   ` [PATCH v2 10/13] builtin/config: introduce "rename-section" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:21   ` [PATCH v2 11/13] builtin/config: introduce "remove-section" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:21   ` [PATCH v2 12/13] builtin/config: introduce "edit" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-11 23:21   ` [PATCH v2 13/13] builtin/config: display subcommand help Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46 ` [PATCH v3 00/13] builtin/config: introduce subcommands Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 01/13] builtin/config: move option array around Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 02/13] builtin/config: move "fixed-value" option to correct group Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 03/13] builtin/config: use `OPT_CMDMODE()` to specify modes Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 04/13] builtin/config: pull out function to handle config location Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 05/13] builtin/config: pull out function to handle `--null` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 06/13] builtin/config: introduce "list" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 07/13] builtin/config: introduce "get" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 08/13] builtin/config: introduce "set" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 09/13] builtin/config: introduce "unset" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 10/13] builtin/config: introduce "rename-section" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 11/13] builtin/config: introduce "remove-section" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:46   ` [PATCH v3 12/13] builtin/config: introduce "edit" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:47   ` [PATCH v3 13/13] builtin/config: display subcommand help Patrick Steinhardt
2024-03-27  8:53   ` [PATCH v3 00/13] builtin/config: introduce subcommands Eric Sunshine
2024-03-27  9:16     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:56 ` [PATCH v4 00/14] " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:56   ` [PATCH v4 01/14] config: clarify memory ownership when preparing comment strings Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03 10:13     ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-05-03  9:56   ` [PATCH v4 02/14] builtin/config: move option array around Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:56   ` [PATCH v4 03/14] builtin/config: move "fixed-value" option to correct group Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03 12:28     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-06  9:34       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:57   ` [PATCH v4 04/14] builtin/config: use `OPT_CMDMODE()` to specify modes Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:57   ` [PATCH v4 05/14] builtin/config: pull out function to handle config location Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:57   ` [PATCH v4 06/14] builtin/config: pull out function to handle `--null` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:57   ` [PATCH v4 07/14] builtin/config: introduce "list" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03 13:08     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-03 13:13       ` rsbecker
2024-05-03 16:01         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-06  7:51           ` Patrick Steinhardt [this message]
2024-05-06 17:13             ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-06 18:33               ` rsbecker
2024-05-06 18:45                 ` Dragan Simic
2024-05-07  6:20                 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2024-05-06 21:33               ` Git 3.0? Junio C Hamano
2024-05-07  4:18                 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-07  4:02               ` [PATCH v4 07/14] builtin/config: introduce "list" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  7:58       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06 11:26         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-03  9:57   ` [PATCH v4 08/14] builtin/config: introduce "get" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:57   ` [PATCH v4 09/14] builtin/config: introduce "set" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:57   ` [PATCH v4 10/14] builtin/config: introduce "unset" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:57   ` [PATCH v4 11/14] builtin/config: introduce "rename-section" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:57   ` [PATCH v4 12/14] builtin/config: introduce "remove-section" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:57   ` [PATCH v4 13/14] builtin/config: introduce "edit" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03  9:57   ` [PATCH v4 14/14] builtin/config: display subcommand help Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-03 13:36   ` [PATCH v4 00/14] builtin/config: introduce subcommands Dragan Simic
2024-05-03 16:09   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-06  8:55 ` [PATCH v5 " Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:55   ` [PATCH v5 01/14] config: clarify memory ownership when preparing comment strings Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 02/14] builtin/config: move option array around Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 03/14] builtin/config: move "fixed-value" option to correct group Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 04/14] builtin/config: use `OPT_CMDMODE()` to specify modes Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 05/14] builtin/config: pull out function to handle config location Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 06/14] builtin/config: pull out function to handle `--null` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 07/14] builtin/config: introduce "list" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 08/14] builtin/config: introduce "get" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 09/14] builtin/config: introduce "set" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 10/14] builtin/config: introduce "unset" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 11/14] builtin/config: introduce "rename-section" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 12/14] builtin/config: introduce "remove-section" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 13/14] builtin/config: introduce "edit" subcommand Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06  8:56   ` [PATCH v5 14/14] builtin/config: display subcommand help Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06 11:30   ` [PATCH v5 00/14] builtin/config: introduce subcommands Karthik Nayak
2024-05-06 20:21   ` Taylor Blau
2024-05-06 20:38     ` rsbecker
2024-05-07  4:07       ` Patrick Steinhardt

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