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From: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>,
	Oswald Buddenhagen <oswald.buddenhagen@gmx.de>,
	Stefan Haller <lists@haller-berlin.de>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Concurrent fetch commands
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2024 12:34:39 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZZbsL8/2KfSITJv3@nand.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqwmsq83v3.fsf@gitster.g>

On Wed, Jan 03, 2024 at 02:10:56PM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com> writes:
>
> > ... I suppose the answer is that they expect
> > concurrent fetches to be tolerated, but that the contents of FETCH_HEAD
> > (and of course the remote references) are consistent at the end of all
> > of the fetches.
>
> What does it mean to be "consistent" in this case, though?  For the
> controlled form of multiple fetches performed by "git fetch --all",
> the answer is probably "as if we fetched sequentially from these
> remotes, one by one, and concatenated what these individual fetch
> invocations left in FETCH_HEAD".  But for an uncontrolled background
> fetch IDE and others perform behind user's back, it is unclear what
> it means, or for that matter, it is dubious if there is a reasonable
> definition for the word.

Yeah, on thinking on it more I tend to agree here.

> Nobody brought up the latter so far on this discussion thread, but
> mucking with the remote-tracking branches behind user's back means
> completely breaking the end-user expectation that --force-with-lease
> would do something useful even when it is not given the commit the
> user expects to see at the remote.  Perhaps those third-party tools
> that want to run "git fetch" in the background can learn from how
> "prefetch" task works to avoid the breakage they are inflicting on
> their users?

Probably so.

Thanks,
Taylor


      parent reply	other threads:[~2024-01-04 17:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-31 13:30 Concurrent fetch commands Stefan Haller
2023-12-31 13:48 ` Dragan Simic
2023-12-31 13:50 ` Konstantin Tokarev
2023-12-31 14:01   ` Dragan Simic
2024-01-01 11:23   ` Stefan Haller
2024-01-01 15:47     ` Federico Kircheis
2023-12-31 17:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-12-31 17:41   ` Dragan Simic
2024-01-01 11:30   ` Stefan Haller
2024-01-01 11:42     ` Stefan Haller
2024-01-03  7:33   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-01-03  8:11     ` Patrick Steinhardt
     [not found]       ` <ZZU1TCyQdLqoLxPw@ugly>
2024-01-03 10:40         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-01-03 16:40           ` Taylor Blau
2024-01-03 22:10             ` Junio C Hamano
2024-01-04 12:01               ` Stefan Haller
2024-01-04 20:54                 ` Mike Hommey
2024-01-04 22:14                   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-01-04 22:25                     ` Mike Hommey
2024-01-04 17:34               ` Taylor Blau [this message]

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