From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 Received: from out1.vger.email (out1.vger.email [IPv6:2620:137:e000::1:20]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E241F452 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2023 00:04:40 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: dcvr.yhbt.net; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ttaylorr-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.i=@ttaylorr-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20210112 header.b=O5yFDrhl; dkim-atps=neutral Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S233344AbjDAAEh (ORCPT ); Fri, 31 Mar 2023 20:04:37 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:44018 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S233470AbjDAAEN (ORCPT ); Fri, 31 Mar 2023 20:04:13 -0400 Received: from mail-yw1-x1136.google.com (mail-yw1-x1136.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1136]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B3351C1F7 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2023 17:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw1-x1136.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-545cb3c9898so369567917b3.7 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2023 17:04:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ttaylorr-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; t=1680307449; h=in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:cc:to:from:date:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=YHeBMwtFWhztCw32SeEtqoQ9oWBu48V7rPoLjDU+2Z0=; b=O5yFDrhlUVu+GMdXDDJaSuMVe4QLb+Fzbn6v3tI+XH+fHrKikXS56v3dLZSKawVXS/ qSmqeXiAtczJ/XCDfR/QEE+UZyVjXRJkEzZ5E/5yXe8e2+6DTNOuaHLBhuIb3z24HYL2 opgeTDJgtFjYFaOlP7y0G3IYGf5L2hbLc5+GSf4rafBjxS0Y25J+zuAeZE7jQi9lxann 5aZr6ojw1JQH3iXQp7GsSCQ6f4vPw1WsNlyuSgU9aoOm/NNq45H83FnBaGZfjGuHVRiU ryrG8j+WE9MqJ4VSq2CrSdS63dOhfVyk05qsupqjF/umtJIWl2kQyIppknXAh/iRYfC/ EvjQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1680307449; h=in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:cc:to:from:date:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=YHeBMwtFWhztCw32SeEtqoQ9oWBu48V7rPoLjDU+2Z0=; b=pVfR5t41kDRkPZlbkUBVok4lv3wePcvevwtnKAzIGJWXh2zMUTLgNd7iv06qIePmQK 7pqlVVB9KcyUmn8EaTDSMuoXJNIpXuK+zwuRoCo6zrMua0BOTXBHsgY7TVASS0a8m50G 1nwV6GArECBq/xJ90zA6orRM46RZhl/gXsTXPliVL2CBc5KrcISWk4lzJ/picH+4P3fM PheBW5jgcxza6HAAbenkBv2VkMX8YyOD9KqqrEf7LNDTj7vVtO2hNlcZAIbcWoDEUUzt TBt42iBtybnQdmQQyG31humiKFv428HR1u9vNVuFS1jCetCIz6wB5Db/6QuZCp35rFrH chBg== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9dJfBMNzKIxxLl25Xw71fmmK/4HP1uj/9KU2YsMPvo6UFQR2grL gL62Cv0VS9nFJIjprnuWGqqt7+Fv5KinvurwhwWDVw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350ZEsXIoZf49fQhRtsbjnbcT+NHiHkPq5j3NRze/MqJSwBv5MEFHMphJlQ3XBuzhX0Q6kfwb9A== X-Received: by 2002:a0d:cb02:0:b0:545:6692:40f1 with SMTP id n2-20020a0dcb02000000b00545669240f1mr26792208ywd.17.1680307449694; Fri, 31 Mar 2023 17:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (104-178-186-189.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net. [104.178.186.189]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c4-20020a81e544000000b0054602054239sm830021ywm.92.2023.03.31.17.04.09 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 31 Mar 2023 17:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 20:04:08 -0400 From: Taylor Blau To: Felipe Contreras Cc: Junio C Hamano , "brian m. carlson" , git@vger.kernel.org, =?utf-8?B?w4Z2YXIgQXJuZmrDtnLDsA==?= Bjarmason , SZEDER =?utf-8?B?R8OhYm9y?= , Eric Sunshine Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] test: make the test suite work with zsh Message-ID: References: <20230328173932.3614601-1-felipe.contreras@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 08:19:08AM -0600, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > It is my impression, however, that zsh in its native mode is even > > further out and away, pushing it on the other side of the line of > > being reasonable to force our develoerps to adjust to. > > Just because it's your impression doesn't mean it's true. Sure, but zsh's incompatibility with bash is clear evidence that it is further out from the POSIX standard. But I think the argument is missing the point, anyway, which is that it's incompatible with POSIX. Is it worth adapting our explicitly POSIX-compatible test suite to work with a non-POSIX shell? I think not. Thanks, Taylor