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From: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
To: Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>
Cc: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>, John Cai <johncai86@gmail.com>,
	Robert Coup <robert.coup@koordinates.com>,
	John Cai via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git <git@vger.kernel.org>, Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] [RFC] repack: add --filter=
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 16:42:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YhQHYQ9b9bYYv10r@nand.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP8UFD2dpicW64eqBK47g43xDWA1qv2BMBEOSqj_My5PUs8TSg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 10:10:15PM +0100, Christian Couder wrote:
> > > Also, to have more protection we can either
> > >
> > > 1. add a config value that needs to be set to true for repack to remove
> > > objects (repack.allowDestroyFilter).
>
> I don't think it's of much value. We don't have such config values for
> other possibly destructive operations.
>
> > > 2. --filter is dry-run by default and prints out objects that would have been removed,
> > > and it has to be combined with another flag --destroy in order for it to actually remove
> > > objects from the odb.
>
> I am not sure it's of much value either compared to naming it
> --filter-destroy. It's likely to just make things more difficult for
> users to understand.

On this and the above, I agree with Christian.

> > I share the same concern as Robert and Stolee do. But I think this issue
> > goes deeper than just naming.
> >
> > Even if we called this `git repack --delete-filter` and only ran it with
> > `--i-know-what-im-doing` flag, we would still be leaving repository
> > corruption on the table, just making it marginally more difficult to
> > achieve.
>
> My opinion on this is that the promisor object mechanism assumes by
> design that some objects are outside a repo, and that this repo
> shouldn't care much about these objects possibly being corrupted.

For what it's worth, I am fine having a mode of repack which allows us
to remove objects that we know are stored by a promisor remote. But this
series doesn't do that, so users could easily run `git repack -d
--filter=...` and find that they have irrecoverably corrupted their
repository.

I think that there are some other reasonable directions, though. One
which Robert and I discussed was making it possible to split a
repository into two packs, one which holds objects that match some
`--filter` criteria, and one which holds the objects that don't match
that filter.

Another option would be to prune the repository according to objects
that are already made available by a promisor remote.

An appealing quality about the above two directions is that the first
doesn't actually remove any objects, just makes it easier to push a
whole pack of unwanted objects off to a promsior remote. The second
prunes the repository according to objects that are already made
available by the promisor remote. (Yes, there is a TOCTOU race there,
too, but it's the same prune-while-pushing race that Git already has
today).

> I am not against a name and some docs that strongly state that users
> should be very careful when using such a command, but otherwise I
> think such a command is perfectly ok. We have other commands that by
> design could lead to some objects or data being lost.

I can think of a handful of ways to remove objects which are unreachable
from a repository, but I am not sure we have any ways to remove objects
which are reachable.

> > But as it stands right now, I worry that this feature is too easily
> > misused and could result in unintended repository corruption.
>
> Are you worrying about the UI or about what it does?
>
> I am ok with improving the UI, but I think what it does is reasonable.

I am more worried about the proposal's functionality than its UI,
hopefully my concerns there are summarized above.

Thanks,
Taylor

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-21 21:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-27  1:49 [PATCH 0/2] repack: add --filter= John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-01-27  1:49 ` [PATCH 1/2] pack-objects: allow --filter without --stdout John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-01-27  1:49 ` [PATCH 2/2] repack: add --filter=<filter-spec> option John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-01-27 15:03   ` Derrick Stolee
2022-01-29 19:14     ` John Cai
2022-01-30  8:16       ` Christian Couder
2022-01-30 13:02       ` John Cai
2022-02-09  2:10 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] [RFC] repack: add --filter= John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-09  2:10   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] pack-objects: allow --filter without --stdout John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-09  2:10   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] repack: add --filter=<filter-spec> option John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-09  2:10   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] upload-pack: allow missing promisor objects John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-09  2:10   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] tests for repack --filter mode John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-17 16:14     ` Robert Coup
2022-02-17 20:36       ` John Cai
2022-02-09  2:27   ` [PATCH v2 0/4] [RFC] repack: add --filter= John Cai
2022-02-16 15:39   ` Robert Coup
2022-02-16 21:07     ` John Cai
2022-02-21  3:11       ` Taylor Blau
2022-02-21 15:38         ` Robert Coup
2022-02-21 17:57           ` Taylor Blau
2022-02-21 21:10         ` Christian Couder
2022-02-21 21:42           ` Taylor Blau [this message]
2022-02-22 17:11             ` Christian Couder
2022-02-22 17:33               ` Taylor Blau
2022-02-23 15:40               ` Robert Coup
2022-02-23 19:31               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-26 16:01                 ` John Cai
2022-02-26 17:29                   ` Taylor Blau
2022-02-26 20:19                     ` John Cai
2022-02-26 20:30                       ` Taylor Blau
2022-02-26 21:05                         ` John Cai
2022-02-26 21:44                           ` Taylor Blau
2022-02-22 18:52             ` John Cai
2022-02-22 19:35               ` Taylor Blau

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