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From: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>
To: Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
Cc: Git List <git@vger.kernel.org>, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Derrick Stolee <dstolee@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] gitfaq: add documentation on proxies
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2021 01:53:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YYiDGhkaaQq7gpLK@camp.crustytoothpaste.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPig+cT5bU3K9aUk=Y6YAOJjAmDvOWitYD_jtgHap_BYs2mPgA@mail.gmail.com>

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On 2021-11-07 at 23:27:24, Eric Sunshine wrote:
> I've seen this come up on the mailing list a couple times recently,
> though I haven't really followed along and don't use Git through an
> SSH proxy, thus I did have to go do some reading to understand what
> this is talking about. Perhaps people searching out this FAQ entry
> will already have sufficient context to understand what this is
> saying, so maybe no additional context is needed here. However, I was
> wondering if it might make sense for this to give a bit of reason
> explaining _why_ these tools need to be configured to not exit
> immediately upon EOF. As it stands now, this solution is a black box;
> it will work but people won't understand why. Perhaps that doesn't
> matter since most people consulting a FAQ like this probably just want
> to get the thing working and don't care about the underlying details.
> Then again, if the underlying reason is made more readily apparent,
> maybe this knowledge can become more widespread.

I'll try to see if I can stuff in a sentence there about why that's
necessary.  I think I understand it sufficiently well to summarize it.

> "modify, tamper with, change" sounds like it came from the Department
> of Redundancy Department. I like the sound of "tamper with" since the
> image it conveys feels quite suitable here. Perhaps this could be
> simplified to:
> 
>    The proxy cannot tamper with or buffer the...

I realize this sounds redundant, but I'm trying to avoid the situation
where people say, "I'm not _tampering_ with it, since I'm authorized to
do this by the company.  I'm just modifying it to remove this
inappropriate content/malware/data leak."  My goal here is to make it
crystal clear that if you do this, you'll break things, and provide
ammunition for people to go to their IT departments and say, "Look, your
proxy prevents me from doing my job.  The Git developers say so.  Fix
it."

I can drop one of "change" and "modify", though, since I think they're
synonyms.
-- 
brian m. carlson (he/him or they/them)
Toronto, Ontario, CA

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-08  1:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-07 22:55 [PATCH v2 0/3] Additional FAQ entries brian m. carlson
2021-11-07 22:55 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] gitfaq: add documentation on proxies brian m. carlson
2021-11-07 23:27   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-11-08  1:53     ` brian m. carlson [this message]
2021-11-08 21:24       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-04 13:40   ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-11-07 22:55 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] gitfaq: give advice on using eol attribute in gitattributes brian m. carlson
2021-11-07 23:48   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-11-08  2:09     ` brian m. carlson
2021-11-07 22:55 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] gitfaq: add entry about syncing working trees brian m. carlson
2021-11-08  0:12   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-11-08 22:09     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-09  0:10       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-14 23:40         ` brian m. carlson
     [not found]     ` <YYmmBMkwy6bpVpzI@camp.crustytoothpaste.net>
2021-11-09  0:02       ` Eric Sunshine
2021-11-08  0:16 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Additional FAQ entries Eric Sunshine
2022-01-04 13:53   ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-01-04 13:54 ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-01-06  1:58   ` brian m. carlson

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