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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Philippe Blain <levraiphilippeblain@gmail.com>
Cc: "Eric Sunshine" <sunshine@sunshineco.com>,
	"Elijah Newren" <newren@gmail.com>,
	"Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	"Git List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"SZEDER Gábor" <szeder.dev@gmail.com>,
	"Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	"Jens Lehmann" <Jens.Lehmann@web.de>,
	"Carlo Arenas" <carenas@gmail.com>,
	"Taylor Blau" <me@ttaylorr.com>,
	"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] test-lib-functions.sh: keep user's HOME, TERM and SHELL for 'test_pause' and 'debug'
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 14:23:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YR/zCcPF2FTeBXvH@coredump.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53752b7d-c294-9507-a7f0-af2aee491251@gmail.com>

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 08:12:50AM -0400, Philippe Blain wrote:

> Thanks everyone for sharing their input and concerns. I understand that the behaviour
> change might not be wanted all the time, or by everyone.
> 
> I also did not think about the implications of changing $HOME that could lead to the
> test framework overwriting stuff in my home. I checked the tests and there are only
> a handful of them that seem to reference HOME, but still, for those tests it would be
> undesirable to reset HOME.
> 
> In light of this I'm thinking of simply adding flags to 'test_pause' and 'debug' to signal
> that one wants to use their original TERM, HOME and SHELL, with appropriate  caveats in
> the description of the functions:
> 
> test_pause     # original behaviour
> test_pause -t  # use USER_TERM
> test_pause -s  # use SHELL instead of TEST_SHELL_PATH
> test_pause -h  # use USER_HOME
> 
> and combinations of these three.
> 
> For 'debug', Carlo's idea of just symlinking/copying gdbinit and/or llldbinit to the test
> HOME might be easier, and would cover the majority of developers, I think. As for TERM,
> we could do 'debug -t' as above, or use USER_TERM always...
> 
> I'll explore these ideas before sending v2.

As an even more different alternative, what do you think about making it
easier to break out of the test suite at a particular state? That would
let you inspect it from your regular shell environment.

E.g., most of my test debugging happens via:

  ./t1234-foo.sh -i
  cd trash\ directory-1234-foo/
  gdb --args ../../git some-command

That implies that the test you're interested in is actually failing
(though I have been known to insert "false &&" to make it so), and that
running the test doesn't wreck the on-disk state.

But what if we could do something like:

  ./t1234-foo.sh --debug=42

to stop _before_ running test 42, print out the commands it would run,
and leave the trash directory so that you can inspect it yourself?

That does not have the "resume after I'm done inspecting" property that
test_pause, but IMHO that is not really that useful for debugging.

It will also occasionally cause headaches when a test relies on other
parts of the environment (e.g., environment variables defined
previously, or functions defined in the script). But I find those are
usually a minority of cases.

-Peff

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-08-20 18:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-19 17:16 [PATCH 0/2] test-lib-functions.sh: keep user's HOME, TERM and SHELL for 'test_pause' and 'debug' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-08-19 17:16 ` [PATCH 1/2] test-lib-functions: use user's SHELL, HOME and TERM for 'test_pause' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-08-20  3:08   ` Carlo Arenas
2021-08-20 12:14     ` Philippe Blain
2021-08-19 17:16 ` [PATCH 2/2] test-lib-functions: use user's TERM and HOME for 'debug' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-08-19 19:24   ` Taylor Blau
2021-08-20  3:18     ` Carlo Arenas
2021-08-19 18:10 ` [PATCH 0/2] test-lib-functions.sh: keep user's HOME, TERM and SHELL for 'test_pause' and 'debug' Eric Sunshine
2021-08-19 19:57   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-08-19 20:14     ` Eric Sunshine
2021-08-19 20:03   ` Elijah Newren
2021-08-19 20:11     ` Eric Sunshine
2021-08-20 12:12       ` Philippe Blain
2021-08-20 15:50         ` Eric Sunshine
2021-08-20 18:23         ` Jeff King [this message]
2021-08-28  0:47 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] " Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-08-28  0:47   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] test-lib-functions: use 'TEST_SHELL_PATH' in 'test_pause' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-08-28  0:47   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] test-lib-functions: optionally keep HOME, TERM and SHELL " Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-08-28  7:27     ` Elijah Newren
2021-08-28 14:50       ` Philippe Blain
2021-08-28  0:47   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] test-lib-functions: optionally keep HOME and TERM in 'debug' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 13:31   ` [PATCH v3 0/3] test-lib-functions.sh: keep user's HOME, TERM and SHELL for 'test_pause' and 'debug' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 13:31     ` [PATCH v3 1/3] test-lib-functions: use 'TEST_SHELL_PATH' in 'test_pause' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 20:04       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-01 13:31     ` [PATCH v3 2/3] test-lib-functions: optionally keep HOME, TERM and SHELL " Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 20:26       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-01 21:52         ` Elijah Newren
2021-09-01 23:09           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-02 13:10             ` Philippe Blain
2021-09-01 13:31     ` [PATCH v3 3/3] test-lib-functions: optionally keep HOME and TERM in 'debug' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06  4:20     ` [PATCH v4 0/3] test-lib-functions.sh: keep user's HOME, TERM and SHELL for 'test_pause' and 'debug' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06  4:20       ` [PATCH v4 1/3] test-lib-functions: use 'TEST_SHELL_PATH' in 'test_pause' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06  4:20       ` [PATCH v4 2/3] test-lib-functions: optionally keep HOME, TERM and SHELL " Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06  4:20       ` [PATCH v4 3/3] test-lib-functions: keep user's debugger config files and TERM in 'debug' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06  4:38       ` [PATCH v5 0/3] test-lib-functions.sh: keep user's HOME, TERM and SHELL for 'test_pause' and 'debug' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06  4:38         ` [PATCH v5 1/3] test-lib-functions: use 'TEST_SHELL_PATH' in 'test_pause' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06  4:38         ` [PATCH v5 2/3] test-lib-functions: optionally keep HOME, TERM and SHELL " Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06  4:39         ` [PATCH v5 3/3] test-lib-functions: keep user's debugger config files and TERM in 'debug' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07  6:24         ` [PATCH v5 0/3] test-lib-functions.sh: keep user's HOME, TERM and SHELL for 'test_pause' and 'debug' Elijah Newren

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