From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org, Alex Henrie <alexhenrie24@gmail.com>,
Marc Branchaud <marcnarc@xiplink.com>,
Philip Oakley <philipoakley@iee.email>,
Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>,
Stephen Haberman <stephen@exigencecorp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] doc: pull: fix rebase=false documentation
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 03:30:41 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YPpwIazVxL4GoLbC@coredump.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <60f8c8c92a215_1d0abb20859@natae.notmuch>
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 08:24:25PM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> I'm not trashing the current behavior, I'm explaining what the consensus
> is. I spent several man-days re-reading old threads, and this is the
> consensus of what should happen:
>
> 1. git pull # merge HEAD into upstream
> 2. git pull origin topic # merge topic into HEAD
>
> Of the people that expressed an opinion, 100% of them stated that what
> `git pull` does in the first case today is not desirable.
I did not participate in the threads you linked earlier, so I am
probably not in that 100%. But you did use my name below:
> Yes, you are correct that if *everyone* followed the topic branch
> workflow, everything would work correctly, but that's not what happens
> in reality, in reality people do all kinds of workflows, and wrong
> merges are pervasive.
>
> Everyone--including Linus, Jeff, and you--agree that there's two
> different ways of using `git pull`: integrator versus developer.
>
> When a user is doing `git pull` to synchronize changes to push to the
> same branch, that's a centralized two-way workflow, so he is acting both
> as an integrator and as a developer, and it's in that particular case
> that the order of the parents should be reversed. Everyone agrees on
> that.
>
> When the user the opposite explicitely: `git pull origin master`
> Linus calls it a "back-merge" [1], and in that case the order of the
> parents should not be reversed.
So I feel compelled to say now that I do not think that changing the
order of parents for "git pull" is the obviously correct thing to do.
And likewise, in the one thread I do remember participating in, I
expressed something similar:
https://lore.kernel.org/git/20140502214817.GA10801@sigill.intra.peff.net/
-Peff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-07-23 7:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-07-21 22:15 [PATCH] doc: pull: fix rebase=false documentation Felipe Contreras
2021-07-21 23:33 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-22 0:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-22 1:24 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-07-23 7:30 ` Jeff King [this message]
2021-07-23 10:05 ` Philip Oakley
2021-07-23 16:54 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-07-23 15:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-23 18:29 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-07-23 21:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-24 3:56 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-07-23 16:36 ` Felipe Contreras
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