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From: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin <NMoreyChaisemartin@suse.de>,
	"Tom G . Christensen" <tgc@jupiterrise.com>,
	Mischa POSLAWSKY <git@shiar.nl>,
	Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] drop support for ancient curl
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 22:56:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YPimBp+TkaJ9ycuM@camp.crustytoothpaste.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover-0.5-00000000000-20210721T220402Z-avarab@gmail.com>

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On 2021-07-21 at 22:22:11, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
> This series simplifies the http code by dropping support for curl
> versions older than 7.19.4, released in March 2009.
> 
> This was last discussed on-list in 2017:
> http://lore.kernel.org/git/20170809120024.7phdjzjv54uv5dpz@sigill.intra.peff.net
> 
> My reading of why it didn't get integrated at the time was:
> 
>  - The original commit messages are opinionated about git not working
>    on these versions anyway, as noted in the original thread that's
>    only true of vanilla curl, but anyone impacted by these issues at
>    the time was probably using e.g. RHEL, which had backports that
>    confused the issue.
> 
>  - While in 2017 these versions were already ancient, RHEL 5 (released
>    in 2007) was still seeing some notable production use.
> 
>    It finally got "we really mean it now" EOL'd in late 2020 when
>    extended life-cycle support ended (see
>    https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata). RHEL 6
>    does not have a libcurl affected by these changes.
> 
>  - It ended with a patch to "error on too-old curl", i.e. to make
>    compiling on versions older than 7.19.4 an error. I've ejected that
>    per the discussion about backports confusing that issue.

I'm in favor of this series.  I'm actually in favor of dropping support
for RHEL 6 as well, since there is nobody providing public security
support for it, and therefore nobody but people paying Red Hat (that is,
not this project) can be expected to safely run it.  I also think ten
years is about the reasonable maximum lifetime of software.

So, with or without those changes, this seems like a good approach to
me.
-- 
brian m. carlson (he/him or they/them)
Toronto, Ontario, CA

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-07-21 22:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 173+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-09 12:00 [PATCH 0/4] dropping support for older curl Jeff King
2017-08-09 12:01 ` [PATCH 1/4] http: drop support for curl < 7.11.1 Jeff King
2017-08-09 12:01 ` [PATCH 2/4] http: drop support for curl < 7.16.0 Jeff King
2017-08-09 17:29   ` Stefan Beller
2017-08-09 21:13     ` Jeff King
2017-08-09 17:40   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-09 18:03     ` Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin
2017-08-09 21:17       ` Jeff King
2017-08-09 21:29         ` Nicolas Morey-Chaisemartin
2017-08-09 21:49           ` Jeff King
2017-08-09 21:15     ` Jeff King
2017-08-09 12:02 ` [PATCH 3/4] http: drop support for curl < 7.19.4 Jeff King
2017-08-09 13:14   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-08-09 13:38     ` Jeff King
2017-08-09 13:49       ` [PATCH 5/4] curl: remove ifdef'd code never used with curl >=7.19.4 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-08-09 17:34   ` [PATCH 3/4] http: drop support for curl < 7.19.4 Stefan Beller
2017-08-09 21:19     ` Jeff King
2017-08-10 12:36   ` Mischa POSLAWSKY
2017-08-10 17:34     ` Jeff King
2017-08-09 12:02 ` [PATCH 4/4] http: #error on too-old curl Jeff King
2017-08-09 17:37   ` Stefan Beller
2017-08-09 21:42 ` [PATCH 0/4] dropping support for older curl Johannes Schindelin
2017-08-09 21:47   ` Jeff King
2017-08-10  9:01     ` Tom G. Christensen
2017-08-10  9:36     ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-08-10 21:33       ` Jeff King
2017-08-10 22:17         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-10 23:09           ` Jeff King
2017-08-11  0:17             ` Jeff King
     [not found]       ` <CAHVLzcnnrABmkYNg31Aq99NgBbyuCKEM60pHGygyjXbjmaUEYQ@mail.gmail.com>
2017-08-14 21:50         ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-08-10 20:33     ` Tom G. Christensen
2017-08-10 21:32       ` Jeff King
2017-08-10 22:23         ` Tom G. Christensen
2017-08-10 22:54           ` Jeff King
2017-08-10 23:17             ` Tom G. Christensen
2017-08-10 23:23               ` Jeff King
2017-08-10 23:36                 ` Tom G. Christensen
2017-08-11 16:37                   ` [PATCH 0/2] http: handle curl with vendor backports Tom G. Christensen
2017-08-11 22:15                     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-12  6:20                       ` Tom G. Christensen
2017-08-20  8:47                       ` Jeff King
2017-08-20 16:28                         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-23 15:41                           ` Jeff King
2017-08-11 16:37                   ` [PATCH 1/2] http: Fix handling of missing CURLPROTO_* Tom G. Christensen
2017-08-12  0:30                     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-12  9:04                       ` Tom G. Christensen
2017-08-20  8:59                       ` Jeff King
2017-08-11 16:37                   ` [PATCH 2/2] http: use a feature check to enable GSSAPI delegation control Tom G. Christensen
2017-08-09 23:39   ` [PATCH 0/4] dropping support for older curl Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
     [not found] ` <87zib8g8ub.fsf@gmail.com>
2017-08-10 10:04   ` Dropping support for older perl Tom G. Christensen
2021-07-21 22:22 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] drop support for ancient curl Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-21 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 1/5] http: drop support for curl < 7.11.1 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-21 22:56     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-21 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 2/5] http: drop support for curl < 7.16.0 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-21 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 3/5] http: drop support for curl < 7.19.4 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-21 23:05     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-21 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 4/5] http: drop support for curl < 7.19.3 and < 7.16.4 (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-21 23:17     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-21 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 5/5] http: rename CURLOPT_FILE to CURLOPT_WRITEDATA Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-21 23:19     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-21 22:39   ` [PATCH v2 0/5] drop support for ancient curl Junio C Hamano
2021-07-21 22:56   ` brian m. carlson [this message]
2021-07-22  7:09     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-22 22:56       ` brian m. carlson
2021-07-23  7:17         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-22  6:27   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-07-23 10:16   ` Jeff King
2021-07-23 16:21     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-23 16:49       ` Randall S. Becker
2021-07-24  1:19       ` Jeff King
2021-07-30  9:31   ` [PATCH v3 0/7] drop support for ancient curl, improve version checks Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30  9:31     ` [PATCH v3 1/7] http: drop support for curl < 7.11.1 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30  9:31     ` [PATCH v3 2/7] http: drop support for curl < 7.16.0 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30  9:31     ` [PATCH v3 3/7] http: drop support for curl < 7.19.4 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30  9:31     ` [PATCH v3 4/7] http: drop support for curl < 7.19.3 and <= 7.16.4 (or <7.17.0) (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30 16:18       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-30  9:31     ` [PATCH v3 5/7] http: drop support for curl < 7.18.0 (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30 16:22       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-30  9:31     ` [PATCH v3 6/7] http: rename CURLOPT_FILE to CURLOPT_WRITEDATA Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30  9:31     ` [PATCH v3 7/7] http: centralize the accounting of libcurl dependencies Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30 16:47       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-30 17:59     ` [PATCH v4 0/5] drop support for ancient curl Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30 17:59       ` [PATCH v4 1/5] http: drop support for curl < 7.11.1 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30 17:59       ` [PATCH v4 2/5] http: drop support for curl < 7.16.0 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 22:28         ` Andrei Rybak
2021-09-11 14:32           ` Jeff King
2021-09-11 21:39             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-11 21:58               ` Jeff King
2021-07-30 17:59       ` [PATCH v4 3/5] http: drop support for curl < 7.19.4 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30 17:59       ` [PATCH v4 4/5] http: drop support for curl < 7.19.3 and < 7.17.0 (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30 17:59       ` [PATCH v4 5/5] http: rename CURLOPT_FILE to CURLOPT_WRITEDATA Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-30 19:03       ` [PATCH v4 0/5] drop support for ancient curl Junio C Hamano
2021-07-30 19:50         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-30 22:49           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-08 15:31       ` [PATCH 0/5] post-v2.33 "drop support for ancient curl" follow-up Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-08 15:31         ` [PATCH 1/5] http: drop support for curl < 7.18.0 (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-09 22:58           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-08 15:31         ` [PATCH 2/5] http: correct curl version check for CURLOPT_PINNEDPUBLICKEY Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-08 19:22           ` Jeff King
2021-09-09 23:12             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-10 14:19               ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 14:30                 ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 14:37                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 15:28                   ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 15:45                     ` Daniel Stenberg
2021-09-10 19:41                       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 21:57                         ` Daniel Stenberg
2021-09-08 15:31         ` [PATCH 3/5] http: correct version check for CURL_HTTP_VERSION_2_0 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-08 19:27           ` Jeff King
2021-09-08 15:31         ` [PATCH 4/5] http: centralize the accounting of libcurl dependencies Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-08 19:31           ` Jeff King
2021-09-09 17:40             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-09 19:26               ` Jeff King
2021-09-08 15:31         ` [PATCH 5/5] http: don't hardcode the value of CURL_SOCKOPT_OK Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-09 23:15           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-09 23:22             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-08 19:32         ` [PATCH 0/5] post-v2.33 "drop support for ancient curl" follow-up Jeff King
2021-09-10 11:04         ` [PATCH v2 0/8] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 11:04           ` [PATCH v2 1/8] INSTALL: don't mention the "curl" executable at all Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 14:53             ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 11:04           ` [PATCH v2 2/8] INSTALL: mention that we need libcurl 7.19.4 or newer to build Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 14:54             ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 16:56               ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-10 17:46                 ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 11:04           ` [PATCH v2 3/8] Makefile: drop support for curl < 7.9.8 (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 15:04             ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 11:04           ` [PATCH v2 4/8] http: drop support for curl < 7.18.0 (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 11:04           ` [PATCH v2 5/8] http: correct version check for CURL_HTTP_VERSION_2 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 15:09             ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 15:20               ` Daniel Stenberg
2021-09-10 15:41                 ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 17:19                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 11:04           ` [PATCH v2 6/8] http: correct curl version check for CURLOPT_PINNEDPUBLICKEY Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 17:00             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-10 11:04           ` [PATCH v2 7/8] http: centralize the accounting of libcurl dependencies Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 15:15             ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 11:04           ` [PATCH v2 8/8] http: don't hardcode the value of CURL_SOCKOPT_OK Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 15:17             ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 14:37           ` [PATCH v2 0/8] post-v2.33 "drop support for ancient curl" follow-up Jeff King
2021-09-10 15:08             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 15:20               ` Jeff King
2021-09-10 16:52           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-10 17:06             ` Randall S. Becker
2021-09-10 17:42             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 17:14           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-10 17:32             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-10 19:05               ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-09-10 19:49                 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-10 17:47             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  9:34           ` [PATCH v3 0/9] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  9:34             ` [PATCH v3 1/9] INSTALL: don't mention the "curl" executable at all Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  9:34             ` [PATCH v3 2/9] INSTALL: reword and copy-edit the "libcurl" section Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  9:34             ` [PATCH v3 3/9] INSTALL: mention that we need libcurl 7.19.4 or newer to build Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  9:34             ` [PATCH v3 4/9] Makefile: drop support for curl < 7.9.8 (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  9:34             ` [PATCH v3 5/9] http: drop support for curl < 7.18.0 (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  9:34             ` [PATCH v3 6/9] http: correct version check for CURL_HTTP_VERSION_2 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  9:34             ` [PATCH v3 7/9] http: correct curl version check for CURLOPT_PINNEDPUBLICKEY Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  9:34             ` [PATCH v3 8/9] http: centralize the accounting of libcurl dependencies Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  9:34             ` [PATCH v3 9/9] http: don't hardcode the value of CURL_SOCKOPT_OK Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11 14:46             ` [PATCH v3 0/9] post-v2.33 "drop support for ancient curl" follow-up Jeff King
2021-09-12 19:01               ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-13 14:51             ` [PATCH v4 " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13 14:51               ` [PATCH v4 1/9] INSTALL: don't mention the "curl" executable at all Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13 14:51               ` [PATCH v4 2/9] INSTALL: reword and copy-edit the "libcurl" section Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13 14:51               ` [PATCH v4 3/9] INSTALL: mention that we need libcurl 7.19.4 or newer to build Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13 14:51               ` [PATCH v4 4/9] Makefile: drop support for curl < 7.9.8 (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13 14:51               ` [PATCH v4 5/9] http: drop support for curl < 7.18.0 (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13 14:51               ` [PATCH v4 6/9] http: correct version check for CURL_HTTP_VERSION_2 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13 14:51               ` [PATCH v4 7/9] http: correct curl version check for CURLOPT_PINNEDPUBLICKEY Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13 14:51               ` [PATCH v4 8/9] http: centralize the accounting of libcurl dependencies Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13 14:51               ` [PATCH v4 9/9] http: don't hardcode the value of CURL_SOCKOPT_OK Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13 17:02               ` [PATCH v4 0/9] post-v2.33 "drop support for ancient curl" follow-up Jeff King
2021-09-13 17:41                 ` Junio C Hamano

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