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Message-ID: References: <20210520071141.GZ8544@kitsune.suse.cz> <7e9683aee2c0fea2ff77b82bfa547e15@jk.gs> <87im33ltqr.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> <60b046dd3f5f2_40592208df@natae.notmuch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <60b046dd3f5f2_40592208df@natae.notmuch> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 08:26:53PM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote: > Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > > > I don't see why we'd advertise #git@liberachat and not #git@freenode in > > order to achieve that goal, the latter doesn't seem to be a graveyard > > and is probably still more active. I don't see why we'd need to pick > > between the two, any more than we'd pick between advertising > > #git@liberachat and the git-users mailing list. Both currently seem like > > useful venues for git users to go to get help. > > Agreed. > > The primary purpose of an IRC channel should be to help users, and if > right now the person that could help a user is on freenode, so be it. > > If the people with some political alignment want to emphasize > LiberaChat, that's fine, but keep mentioning freenode. git-scm.com was updated recently to mention LiberaChat instead of Freenode [1]. That was done to reflect the reality of [2]. I suspect that will have been the right decision, but in case it isn't (and there are still people hanging around in #git on Freenode), then I'd be in favor of mentioning both. For what it's worth, I also do not care about the Freenode versus Libera (or vice-versa?) debacle. That said, I do think having one central place for people to hang out is better than two (if for no other reason than it's fewer places to check or go to if you want help), but I would be fine if the status-quo were that there is an active #git channel on both Libera and Freenode. Thanks, Taylor [1]: https://github.com/git/git-scm.com/pull/1608 [2]: https://lore.kernel.org/git/7e9683aee2c0fea2ff77b82bfa547e15@jk.gs/