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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Cc: "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy" <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	"Richard Hansen" <rhansen@rhansen.org>
Subject: Re: Re* [PATCH] doc: glossary: add entry for revision range
Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 02:55:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YKNk+5k3hKW/xPBZ@coredump.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <60a34a7616cda_14d1bc20818@natae.notmuch>

On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 12:02:46AM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote:

> > Why would people need to use "git remote set-head" most of the time? The
> > symlink is set up properly by git-clone, and has been for many years.
> 
> First instructions from GitHub:
> 
>   echo "# test" >> README.md
>   git init
>   git add README.md
>   git commit -m "first commit"
>   git branch -M main
>   git remote add origin git@github.com:felipec/test.git
>   git push -u origin main
> 
> Second instructions from GitHub:
> 
>   git remote add origin git@github.com:felipec/test.git
>   git branch -M main
>   git push -u origin main
> 
> None of these use `git clone`.

So? Here are some other instructions from GitHub[0]:

  Type git clone, and then paste the URL you copied earlier.

    $ git clone https://github.com/YOUR-USERNAME/YOUR-REPOSITORY

[0] https://docs.github.com/en/github/creating-cloning-and-archiving-repositories/cloning-a-repository

Not to mention that every single repository page mentions cloning under
the "Code" button (including the command-line "gh repo clone" if you are
using their recommended tool).

People clone a lot more than they create new repositories.

> Of 31 repositories I work on and have quickly at hand only 8 have
> origin/HEAD.

And of 141 repositories I have on my workstation, 137 have origin/HEAD
(and of the 4 without, one does not even have a remote at all, and one
is a git-svn repository).

I don't think that proves anything except that your workflow is
different than mine. But I contend that most people get repositories by
cloning them.

> And even *if* origin/HEAD did work on most repositories (hardly the
> case), most people are not going to train their fingers to type `git cmd
> $x` when the only $x where the command works is "origin"; they would
> rather train their fingers to do $x/master which works on many more
> repositories.

I guess I'm not most people, because I sure have enjoyed typing the
shorter thing all these years.

Look, I get that you didn't know or care about the "origin/HEAD" feature
until recently. But it's been part of Git for over 15 years, and has
been used as the documentation examples for revision ranges in both
git-rev-list(1) and gitrevisions(7), as well as the user-manual.

I'm perfectly happy to use placeholder ref names in the glossary
documentation, but it's not like the use of "origin" as a name is some
obscure secret.

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-18  6:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-16 20:37 [PATCH] doc: glossary: add entry for revision range Felipe Contreras
2021-05-17  7:46 ` Re* " Junio C Hamano
2021-05-17 10:30   ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-17 11:55     ` Jeff King
2021-05-17 17:22       ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-18  6:59         ` Jeff King
2021-05-18 12:28           ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-17 19:26       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-17 21:05         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-18  0:51           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-18  1:26             ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-18  2:08           ` Jeff King
2021-05-18  2:57             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-18  5:20               ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-18  5:02             ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-18  6:55               ` Jeff King [this message]
2021-05-18 11:42                 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-18 12:47                   ` Jeff King
2021-05-18 21:09                     ` Felipe Contreras

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