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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, "SZEDER Gábor" <szeder.dev@gmail.com>,
	"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] t7415: remove out-dated comment about translation
Date: Mon, 3 May 2021 16:29:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YJBdPXkogxeERdi8@coredump.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874kfkxhxe.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 11:46:52AM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:

> > Since GETTEXT_POISON does not exist anymore, there is no point warning
> > people about whether we should use test_i18ngrep. This is doubly
> > confusing because the comment was describing why it was OK to use grep,
> > but it got caught up in the mass conversion of 674ba34038 (fsck: mark
> > strings for translation, 2018-11-10).
> >
> > Note there are other uses of test_i18ngrep in this script which are now
> > obsolete; I'll save those for a mass-cleanup. My goal here was just to
> > fix the confusing comment in code I'm about to refactor.
> 
> For what it's worth between [1] and [2] I'm not sure what to do about
> the test_i18ngrep cleanup. I think your patch below is fine, but the
> "test_i18ngrep" has mutated into a "grep with debugging", not just
> something needed for GETTEXT_POISON.

Yes, I can see some value in that. Though if that's what it's going to
be, IMHO we should use it consistently and give a better name (test_grep
or something).

> So that part of your patch right now is making it less friendly for
> debugging. I don't care, and think if we want that we'd be better of
> scraping the trace ouput for such common cases and/or use "verbose grep
> [...]" and teach the "verbose" wrapper about these common cases, but
> knowing of that objection + having other outstanding things has been why
> I haven't sent s/test_i18ngrep/grep/g patches.

I was the one who introduced "verbose" long ago, and I did have dreams
that people would do "verbose grep" everywhere. But in the end, we made
"-x" a lot nicer to use, and I think that largely obsoletes it. Using
"verbose" makes the non-x verbose output slightly nicer, perhaps. But
not having to remember to sprinkle "verbose" through the test code (nor
read it) seems like a bigger win to me.

For the same reason, I'm pretty ambivalent about having test_grep. I
suppose one could make a similar argument about "test_path_is_missing",
etc, though some of those helpers are also encapsulating technique
(e.g., test_dir_is_empty).

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-03 20:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-01 15:40 [PATCH 0/9] leftover bits from symlinked gitattributes, etc topics Jeff King
2021-05-01 15:41 ` [PATCH 1/9] t7415: remove out-dated comment about translation Jeff King
2021-05-03  9:46   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-03 20:29     ` Jeff King [this message]
2021-05-01 15:41 ` [PATCH 2/9] fsck_tree(): fix shadowed variable Jeff King
2021-05-03 11:15   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-03 20:13     ` Jeff King
2021-05-04 10:10       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-01 15:41 ` [PATCH 3/9] fsck_tree(): wrap some long lines Jeff King
2021-05-03 11:22   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-03 20:23     ` Jeff King
2021-05-01 15:42 ` [PATCH 4/9] t7415: rename to expand scope Jeff King
2021-05-01 15:42 ` [PATCH 5/9] t7450: test verify_path() handling of gitmodules Jeff King
2021-05-01 18:55   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-05-01 19:03     ` Eric Sunshine
2021-05-03 19:39       ` Jeff King
2021-05-03 10:12   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-03 20:32     ` Jeff King
2021-05-01 15:42 ` [PATCH 6/9] t7450: test .gitmodules symlink matching against obscured names Jeff King
2021-05-01 15:42 ` [PATCH 7/9] t0060: test ntfs/hfs-obscured dotfiles Jeff King
2021-05-01 15:43 ` [PATCH 8/9] fsck: warn about symlinked dotfiles we'll open with O_NOFOLLOW Jeff King
2021-05-01 15:43 ` [PATCH 9/9] docs: document symlink restrictions for dot-files Jeff King
2021-05-01 19:16   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-05-03 20:33     ` Jeff King
2021-05-03  5:36 ` [PATCH 0/9] leftover bits from symlinked gitattributes, etc topics Junio C Hamano
2021-05-03 20:42 ` [PATCH v2 " Jeff King
2021-05-03 20:43   ` [PATCH v2 1/9] t7415: remove out-dated comment about translation Jeff King
2021-05-03 20:43   ` [PATCH v2 2/9] fsck_tree(): fix shadowed variable Jeff King
2021-05-03 20:43   ` [PATCH v2 3/9] fsck_tree(): wrap some long lines Jeff King
2021-05-03 20:43   ` [PATCH v2 4/9] t7415: rename to expand scope Jeff King
2021-05-03 20:43   ` [PATCH v2 5/9] t7450: test verify_path() handling of gitmodules Jeff King
2021-05-03 20:43   ` [PATCH v2 6/9] t7450: test .gitmodules symlink matching against obscured names Jeff King
2021-05-03 20:43   ` [PATCH v2 7/9] t0060: test ntfs/hfs-obscured dotfiles Jeff King
2021-05-03 20:43   ` [PATCH v2 8/9] fsck: warn about symlinked dotfiles we'll open with O_NOFOLLOW Jeff King
2021-05-03 20:43   ` [PATCH v2 9/9] docs: document symlink restrictions for dot-files Jeff King

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