From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS53758 23.128.96.0/24 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D771F934 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:46:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S241944AbhDSNh1 (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Apr 2021 09:37:27 -0400 Received: from outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu ([18.9.28.11]:52570 "EHLO outgoing.mit.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S241641AbhDSNge (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Apr 2021 09:36:34 -0400 Received: from cwcc.thunk.org (pool-72-74-133-215.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [72.74.133.215]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 13JDZgVk022427 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 19 Apr 2021 09:35:43 -0400 Received: by cwcc.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id C083F15C3B0D; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 09:35:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 09:35:42 -0400 From: "Theodore Ts'o" To: Eric Wong Cc: Son Luong Ngoc , Jonathan Nieder , git@vger.kernel.org, Raxel Gutierrez , mricon@kernel.org, patchwork@lists.ozlabs.org, Junio C Hamano , Taylor Blau , Emily Shaffer Subject: Re: Pain points in Git's patch flow Message-ID: References: <20210419025754.GA26065@dcvr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210419025754.GA26065@dcvr> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 02:57:54AM +0000, Eric Wong wrote: > > But for folks who don't have a dev environment ready at hand (new > > comers, during travel with only phone access), it would be nice to > > have a way to run tests without a dev environment. > > Fwiw, the GCC Farm project gives ssh accounts for all free > software contributors, not just gcc hackers: https://cfarm.tetaneutral.net > Perhaps there's other similar services, too. > > Slow down and enjoy travel :) There's very little in free > software urgent enough to require constant attention. Email is > well-suited for asynchronous work, and nobody should expect > instant replies. The always-on nature of the modern Internet > and smartphones increases stress and dangerous situations; so I > hope free software hackers aren't contributing to that. FWIW, I find the disconnected, e-mail based workflow using a command-line interface to be *ideal* for working while travelling on an airplane. I'm mostly disconnected from the internet, because the airplane wifi is so slow that you *really* don't want to use a web-based interface, but I can use offlineimap to sync my e-mail onto my laptop, and using the command-line interface and the lack of distractions is great since you really can't surf the web on the gogoonline's pathetically slow 'net access. This also means I have an excuse to work on open source projects which are using e-mail and off-line git, as opposed to $WORK which mandates the use of gerrit. :-) (All of the above applies pre-pandemic, of course. I've been working from home and not travelling for the past year+, sigh.) - Ted P.S. Also, while working on the road, I find that web-based interfaces are much more tolerable when I'm at my desk with a 40" screen. When I'm using a 13" laptop screen, I much prefer CLI interfaces. YMMV, of course.