From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007E81F9FC for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 17:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S232473AbhCRRZb (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Mar 2021 13:25:31 -0400 Received: from injection.crustytoothpaste.net ([192.241.140.119]:43802 "EHLO injection.crustytoothpaste.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S232350AbhCRRZC (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Mar 2021 13:25:02 -0400 Received: from camp.crustytoothpaste.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:b978:101:7d4e:cde:7c41:71c2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by injection.crustytoothpaste.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CBD7F6048E; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 17:24:30 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=crustytoothpaste.net; s=default; t=1616088271; bh=reWylKvSpFfTX/g7RMEJPecpQvULeJ3GCCSpPluQ8y8=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Content-Type: Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:From:Reply-To:Subject:Date:To:CC: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:In-Reply-To:References: Content-Type:Content-Disposition; b=tFnMxS6n1JBD3pn6CTOKQ3WJnhCtBTAABB1yZXkap+toOmb+hDGwkR2ZGMchhFUbx qFYZJhsyUySnhIuNggcW2ed/ZhI2GBOiw1kk5wa4LJnwwJ3Vkcxy0w+e3qzviClAd5 f8RvGbqF4eOM6QLh2UfyxsRFiMsBSXPHgKSWW5WTRfi95U3QYLZ7XSthrPRX58Ry42 w0bKj6Pq6VZGe38fhQBXUzo7UGmoBZnsVC7Mcf6Vwu2VTCCAnyO40I7Q6iB6hPhnax ppgr0LRqKj/l2VzjHEIV7KlhXor5tK6qkAVEtp9GibusnnWCjc7/oThXd4ePTk/lKl MuthYRldT8aUXamHDipllEEY+u43h6pXgoQLGN7YWTy/mI2gHorGXDE0Jbdzod2lNG xiNCwjY/jeinP1vRvb1LDFuGFKRGoZPHejJfNKxxDRb9dWUNRNiJ/L4eG871p5hOzK f1Yik/cztaUK5ZHWg8CMo6fqkZ4IiSJth+4p2RRnvEqJ9tj5QXM Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 17:24:26 +0000 From: "brian m. carlson" To: Jeff King Cc: Christian Strasser , git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Git install crashed nearly whole System Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: "brian m. carlson" , Jeff King , Christian Strasser , git@vger.kernel.org References: <8aa7be071abc23371397f72b725babc4e4e90190.camel@avr-fun.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/otedxb8y/3mY6Su" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.5 (2021-01-21) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org --/otedxb8y/3mY6Su Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2021-03-18 at 17:00:04, Jeff King wrote: > On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 04:33:52PM +0000, brian m. carlson wrote: > > If everything's working for you, there's no need to change it. It's > > _possible_ to install git-all and not have this problem, but because of > > the way modern versions of Debian and the packages in question are > > configured it ends up tending to have this problem by default. > >=20 > > In this case, it may be that git-daemon is installed but not configured > > to start, or it may have been removed when you reinstalled GNOME since > > it's not a hard dependency. >=20 > Yeah. I think fundamentally this is a packaging issue. It looks like > "git-daemon-*" has been downgraded to "Suggests" in Debian unstable. It > looks like this was done in 1:2.26.0-2 last April. From the changelog: >=20 > * debian/control: downgrade Recommends by git-all on git-daemon-run > to Suggests. The git-all package is a "batteries included" full > installation of Git. Automatically running a daemon is not useful > to most of its users. >=20 > So they are already aware of and addressed the problem, but older > releases will still show it. Yeah, and I think that https://bugs.debian.org/953875 has fixed the problem where installing runit (by using git-daemon-run) would switch the default init system. So in bullseye, this will probably be fixed even if the daemon does get installed. I think the person who previously maintained both Git and runit in Debian was busy with other things for a while, which prevented this issue from being fixed. Now Jonathan is maintaining Git (and is doing a great job, especially with the next builds in experimental) and someone else has taken over runit and fixed the problem mentioned above, which occasionally caused this same problem with other packages as well. So I think this will sort itself out in the next release, and in the meantime, just be careful with git-all in buster and older. --=20 brian m. carlson (he/him or they/them) Houston, Texas, US --/otedxb8y/3mY6Su Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.2.27 (GNU/Linux) iHUEABYKAB0WIQQILOaKnbxl+4PRw5F8DEliiIeigQUCYFOMyAAKCRB8DEliiIei gSwUAP9oE0nXgksi6cu97VoGDAHwhm4Hur2ogxTCLC+bTUqXEAD/UriCVor3dU6Z F8pBZEoUzIMv6TkYogJ7fuc7mgX8XA0= =6GsA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/otedxb8y/3mY6Su--