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From: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, dstolee@microsoft.com, gitster@pobox.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/8] packfile: introduce 'find_kept_pack_entry()'
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:48:17 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YCw9oX9EEEzo5Kaj@nand.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YCw8TmDdEfcnZSOo@coredump.intra.peff.net>

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 04:42:38PM -0500, Jeff King wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 03, 2021 at 10:58:50PM -0500, Taylor Blau wrote:
>
> > Future callers will want a function to fill a 'struct pack_entry' for a
> > given object id but _only_ from its position in any kept pack(s).
> >
> > In particular, an new 'git repack' mode which ensures the resulting
>
> Nit (not worth re-rolling): s/an new/a new/

Oops. Good eyes.

> > There is a gotcha when looking up objects that are duplicated in kept
> > and non-kept packs, particularly when the MIDX stores the non-kept
> > version and the caller asked for kept objects only. This could be
> > resolved by teaching the MIDX to resolve duplicates by always favoring
> > the kept pack (if one exists), but this breaks an assumption in existing
> > MIDXs, and so it would require a format change.
>
> I don't think this would be possible without a major rethink of how
> midxs work. The "keep" property of a pack is not set in stone when the
> midx is created. You could add a ".keep" file to one of its packs later,
> or even mark one as an in-core keep on the fly. But the duplicate
> resolution happens at creation.
>
> So maybe your "breaks an assumption" is the notion that we do not store
> duplicate information at all in the midx. If so, then I agree. :) But
> I'd also call fixing that more than just a format change.

That's part of it, indeed. The part that I was referring to is that
existing MIDX readers expect duplicates to be resolved in a certain way
(effectively in favor of the pack with the lowest mtime). So the easy
part is indicating a format change which tells new readers how to expect
ties to be broken.

But (as you note) that's only part of the problem: even if we say "ties
are resolved in favor of the lowest mtime pack, or a .keep one, if it
exists", then which ones are kept and which aren't? Even *if* we wrote
that down (which I'm not suggesting we do), kept-ness isn't an immutable
property of the pack, and so I think relying on it is a tricky direction
to take.

> (None of which changes your point, which isn't that it isn't worth
> pursuing that direction).

Yeah; my hope in writing some of this down in the above paragraph is
that it would make clear to future readers that such a MIDX change would
resolve some complexity here, but the complexity it adds in the MIDX
code isn't worth the tradeoff.

> -Peff

Thanks,
Taylor

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-16 21:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-19 23:23 [PATCH 00/10] repack: support repacking into a geometric sequence Taylor Blau
2021-01-19 23:24 ` [PATCH 01/10] packfile: introduce 'find_kept_pack_entry()' Taylor Blau
2021-01-20 13:40   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-01-20 14:38     ` Taylor Blau
2021-01-29  2:33   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-29 18:38     ` Taylor Blau
2021-01-29 19:31     ` Jeff King
2021-01-29 20:20       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-19 23:24 ` [PATCH 02/10] revision: learn '--no-kept-objects' Taylor Blau
2021-01-29  3:10   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-29 19:13     ` Taylor Blau
2021-01-19 23:24 ` [PATCH 03/10] builtin/pack-objects.c: learn '--assume-kept-packs-closed' Taylor Blau
2021-01-29  3:21   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-29 19:19     ` Jeff King
2021-01-29 20:01       ` Taylor Blau
2021-01-29 20:25         ` Jeff King
2021-01-29 22:10           ` Taylor Blau
2021-01-29 22:57             ` Jeff King
2021-01-29 23:03             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-29 23:28               ` Taylor Blau
2021-02-02  3:04                 ` Taylor Blau
2021-01-29 23:31               ` Jeff King
2021-01-29 22:13           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-29 20:30       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-29 22:43         ` Jeff King
2021-01-29 22:53           ` Taylor Blau
2021-01-29 23:00             ` Jeff King
2021-01-29 23:10             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-19 23:24 ` [PATCH 04/10] p5303: add missing &&-chains Taylor Blau
2021-01-19 23:24 ` [PATCH 05/10] p5303: measure time to repack with keep Taylor Blau
2021-01-29  3:40   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-29 19:32     ` Jeff King
2021-01-29 20:04       ` [PATCH] p5303: avoid sed GNU-ism Jeff King
2021-01-29 20:19         ` Eric Sunshine
2021-01-29 20:27           ` Jeff King
2021-01-29 20:36             ` Eric Sunshine
2021-01-29 22:11               ` Taylor Blau
2021-01-29 20:38       ` [PATCH 05/10] p5303: measure time to repack with keep Junio C Hamano
2021-01-29 22:10         ` Jeff King
2021-01-29 23:12           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-19 23:24 ` [PATCH 06/10] pack-objects: rewrite honor-pack-keep logic Taylor Blau
2021-01-19 23:24 ` [PATCH 07/10] packfile: add kept-pack cache for find_kept_pack_entry() Taylor Blau
2021-01-19 23:24 ` [PATCH 08/10] builtin/pack-objects.c: teach '--keep-pack-stdin' Taylor Blau
2021-01-19 23:24 ` [PATCH 09/10] builtin/repack.c: extract loose object handling Taylor Blau
2021-01-20 13:59   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-01-20 14:34     ` Taylor Blau
2021-01-20 15:51       ` Derrick Stolee
2021-01-21  3:45     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-19 23:24 ` [PATCH 10/10] builtin/repack.c: add '--geometric' option Taylor Blau
2021-01-20 14:05 ` [PATCH 00/10] repack: support repacking into a geometric sequence Derrick Stolee
2021-02-04  3:58 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] " Taylor Blau
2021-02-04  3:58   ` [PATCH v2 1/8] packfile: introduce 'find_kept_pack_entry()' Taylor Blau
2021-02-16 21:42     ` Jeff King
2021-02-16 21:48       ` Taylor Blau [this message]
2021-02-04  3:58   ` [PATCH v2 2/8] revision: learn '--no-kept-objects' Taylor Blau
2021-02-16 23:17     ` Jeff King
2021-02-17 18:35       ` Taylor Blau
2021-02-04  3:59   ` [PATCH v2 3/8] builtin/pack-objects.c: add '--stdin-packs' option Taylor Blau
2021-02-16 23:46     ` Jeff King
2021-02-17 18:59       ` Taylor Blau
2021-02-17 19:21         ` Jeff King
2021-02-04  3:59   ` [PATCH v2 4/8] p5303: add missing &&-chains Taylor Blau
2021-02-04  3:59   ` [PATCH v2 5/8] p5303: measure time to repack with keep Taylor Blau
2021-02-16 23:58     ` Jeff King
2021-02-17  0:02       ` Jeff King
2021-02-17 19:13       ` Taylor Blau
2021-02-17 19:25         ` Jeff King
2021-02-04  3:59   ` [PATCH v2 6/8] builtin/pack-objects.c: rewrite honor-pack-keep logic Taylor Blau
2021-02-17 16:05     ` Jeff King
2021-02-17 19:23       ` Taylor Blau
2021-02-17 19:29         ` Jeff King
2021-02-04  3:59   ` [PATCH v2 7/8] packfile: add kept-pack cache for find_kept_pack_entry() Taylor Blau
2021-02-17 17:11     ` Jeff King
2021-02-17 19:54       ` Taylor Blau
2021-02-17 20:25         ` Jeff King
2021-02-17 20:29           ` Taylor Blau
2021-02-17 21:43             ` Jeff King
2021-02-04  3:59   ` [PATCH v2 8/8] builtin/repack.c: add '--geometric' option Taylor Blau
2021-02-17 18:17     ` Jeff King
2021-02-17 20:01       ` Taylor Blau
2021-02-17  0:01   ` [PATCH v2 0/8] repack: support repacking into a geometric sequence Jeff King
2021-02-17 18:18     ` Jeff King
2021-02-18  3:14 ` [PATCH v3 " Taylor Blau
2021-02-18  3:14   ` [PATCH v3 1/8] packfile: introduce 'find_kept_pack_entry()' Taylor Blau
2021-02-18  3:14   ` [PATCH v3 2/8] revision: learn '--no-kept-objects' Taylor Blau
2021-02-18  3:14   ` [PATCH v3 3/8] builtin/pack-objects.c: add '--stdin-packs' option Taylor Blau
2021-02-18  3:14   ` [PATCH v3 4/8] p5303: add missing &&-chains Taylor Blau
2021-02-18  3:14   ` [PATCH v3 5/8] p5303: measure time to repack with keep Taylor Blau
2021-02-18  3:14   ` [PATCH v3 6/8] builtin/pack-objects.c: rewrite honor-pack-keep logic Taylor Blau
2021-02-18  3:14   ` [PATCH v3 7/8] packfile: add kept-pack cache for find_kept_pack_entry() Taylor Blau
2021-02-18  3:14   ` [PATCH v3 8/8] builtin/repack.c: add '--geometric' option Taylor Blau
2021-02-23  0:31   ` [PATCH v3 0/8] repack: support repacking into a geometric sequence Jeff King
2021-02-23  1:06     ` Taylor Blau
2021-02-23  1:42       ` Jeff King
2021-02-23  2:24 ` [PATCH v4 " Taylor Blau
2021-02-23  2:25   ` [PATCH v4 1/8] packfile: introduce 'find_kept_pack_entry()' Taylor Blau
2021-02-23  2:25   ` [PATCH v4 2/8] revision: learn '--no-kept-objects' Taylor Blau
2021-02-23  2:25   ` [PATCH v4 3/8] builtin/pack-objects.c: add '--stdin-packs' option Taylor Blau
2021-02-23  8:07     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-23 18:51       ` Jeff King
2021-02-23  2:25   ` [PATCH v4 4/8] p5303: add missing &&-chains Taylor Blau
2021-02-23  2:25   ` [PATCH v4 5/8] p5303: measure time to repack with keep Taylor Blau
2021-02-23  2:25   ` [PATCH v4 6/8] builtin/pack-objects.c: rewrite honor-pack-keep logic Taylor Blau
2021-02-23  2:25   ` [PATCH v4 7/8] packfile: add kept-pack cache for find_kept_pack_entry() Taylor Blau
2021-02-23  2:25   ` [PATCH v4 8/8] builtin/repack.c: add '--geometric' option Taylor Blau
2021-02-24 23:19     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-24 23:43       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-04 21:40         ` Taylor Blau
2021-03-04 21:55       ` Taylor Blau
2021-02-23  3:39   ` [PATCH v4 0/8] repack: support repacking into a geometric sequence Jeff King
2021-02-23  7:43   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-23 18:44     ` Jeff King
2021-02-23 19:54       ` Martin Fick
2021-02-23 20:06         ` Taylor Blau
2021-02-23 21:57           ` Martin Fick
2021-02-23 20:15         ` Jeff King
2021-02-23 21:41           ` Martin Fick
2021-02-23 21:53             ` Jeff King
2021-02-24 18:13               ` Martin Fick
2021-02-26  6:23                 ` Jeff King

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