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From: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
To: Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>
Cc: Han-Wen Nienhuys <hanwen@google.com>,
	Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, jrnieder@gmail.com,
	John Cai <johncai86@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/30] [RFC] extensions.refFormat and packed-refs v2 file format
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2022 11:37:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y4eG1SDxBqjwUhwM@nand.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f1c45bd5-692e-85db-90c3-c516003f47e5@github.com>

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 10:16:52AM -0500, Derrick Stolee wrote:
> > Do you mean 'enumerate refs' ? Why would you want to count refs by prefix?
>
> * There was a GitHub feature that counted refs and tags, but wanted to
>   ignore internal ref prefixes (outside of refs/heads/* or refs/tags/*).
>   It turns out that we didn't actually need the full count but an
>   existence indicator, but it would be helpful to quickly identify how
>   many branches or tags are in a repository at a glance. Packed-refs v1
>   requires scanning the whole file while packed-refs v2 does a fixed
>   number of binary searches followed by a subtraction of row indexes.

True. On the surface, it seemed odd to use a function which returns
something like:

    { "refs/heads/*" => NNNN, "refs/tags/*" => MMMM }

only to check whether or not NNNN and MMMM are zero or non-zero.

But there's a little more to the story. That emptiness check does occur
at the beginning of many page loads. But when it responds "non-empty",
we then care about how many branches and tags there actually are.

So calling count_refs() (the name of the internal RPC that powers all of
this) was an optimization written under the assumption that we actually
are going to ask about the exact number of branches/tags very shortly
after querying for emptiness.

It turns out that empirically it's faster to do something like:

    $ git show-ref --[heads|tags] | head -n 1

to check if there are any branches and tags at all[^1], and then a
follow up 'git show-ref --heads | wc -l' to check how many there are.

But it would be nice to do both operations quickly without having
actually scan all of the entries in each prefix.

Thanks,
Taylor

[^1]: Some may remember my series in
  https://lore.kernel.org/git/cover.1654552560.git.me@ttaylorr.com/
  which replaced '| head -n 1' with a '--count=1' option. This matches
  what GitHub runs in production where piping one command to another
  from Ruby is unfortunately quite complicated.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-11-30 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-07 18:35 [PATCH 00/30] [RFC] extensions.refFormat and packed-refs v2 file format Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 01/30] hashfile: allow skipping the hash function Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 02/30] read-cache: add index.computeHash config option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-11 23:31   ` Elijah Newren
2022-11-14 16:30     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-11-17 16:13   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 03/30] extensions: add refFormat extension Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-11 23:39   ` Elijah Newren
2022-11-16 14:37     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 04/30] config: fix multi-level bulleted list Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 05/30] repository: wire ref extensions to ref backends Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 06/30] refs: allow loose files without packed-refs Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 07/30] chunk-format: number of chunks is optional Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 08/30] chunk-format: document trailing table of contents Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 09/30] chunk-format: store chunk offset during write Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 10/30] chunk-format: allow trailing table of contents Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 11/30] chunk-format: parse " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 12/30] refs: extract packfile format to new file Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 13/30] packed-backend: extract add_write_error() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 14/30] packed-backend: extract iterator/updates merge Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 15/30] packed-backend: create abstraction for writing refs Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 16/30] config: add config values for packed-refs v2 Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 17/30] packed-backend: create shell of v2 writes Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 18/30] packed-refs: write file format version 2 Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 19/30] packed-refs: read file format v2 Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 20/30] packed-refs: read optional prefix chunks Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 21/30] packed-refs: write " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 22/30] packed-backend: create GIT_TEST_PACKED_REFS_VERSION Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 23/30] t1409: test with packed-refs v2 Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 24/30] t5312: allow packed-refs v2 format Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:35 ` [PATCH 25/30] t5502: add PACKED_REFS_V1 prerequisite Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:36 ` [PATCH 26/30] t3210: require packed-refs v1 for some tests Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:36 ` [PATCH 27/30] t*: skip packed-refs v2 over http tests Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:36 ` [PATCH 28/30] ci: run GIT_TEST_PACKED_REFS_VERSION=2 in some builds Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:36 ` [PATCH 29/30] p1401: create performance test for ref operations Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-07 18:36 ` [PATCH 30/30] refs: skip hashing when writing packed-refs v2 Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-11-09 15:15 ` [PATCH 00/30] [RFC] extensions.refFormat and packed-refs v2 file format Derrick Stolee
2022-11-11 23:28 ` Elijah Newren
2022-11-14  0:07   ` Derrick Stolee
2022-11-15  2:47     ` Elijah Newren
2022-11-16 14:45       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-11-17  4:28         ` Elijah Newren
2022-11-18 23:31     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-11-19  0:41       ` Elijah Newren
2022-11-19  3:00         ` Taylor Blau
2022-11-30 15:31       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-11-28 18:56 ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2022-11-30 15:16   ` Derrick Stolee
2022-11-30 15:38     ` Phillip Wood
2022-11-30 16:37     ` Taylor Blau [this message]
2022-11-30 18:30     ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2022-11-30 18:37       ` Sean Allred
2022-12-01 20:18       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-12-02 16:46         ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2022-12-02 18:24           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-30 22:55     ` Junio C Hamano

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