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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: demerphq <demerphq@gmail.com>
Cc: "D. Ben Knoble" <ben.knoble@gmail.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: grep: fix multibyte regex handling under macOS (1819ad327b7a1f19540a819813b70a0e8a7f798f)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2023 13:19:03 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+KWFyjTa8t5d5Q8@coredump.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANgJU+UJ-p54MDmQWYTEsdh_ss-q8TUEcqHFm568Lpfsy2dU+w@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Feb 04, 2023 at 12:32:09PM +0100, demerphq wrote:

> > I think this is a perennial question for portable software: is it better
> > to be consistent across platforms (by shipping our own regex engine), or
> > consistent with other programs on the same platform (by using the system
> > regex).
> 
> Personally I think that while this seems to be an impartial reading of
> the question at hand I think it frames the debate in a way that has
> the potential to bias[1] the discussion in favour of a particular
> policy outcome[2]. It implies that all other things are equal between
> the two options presented, and frames the question as something that
> comes down to personal preference between one form of consistency and
> another.

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply one side or the other, or even that they
were equal. I more just meant: you can make arguments either way.

_I_ don't have a strong opinion there, but you have made many of those
arguments in your email. And everything you said was pretty sensible.

I did want to mention one thing, though:

> It also assumes that being consistent with other programs on
> the same platform is inherently beneficial, when that doesn't seem to
> be clearly established[2].

This isn't consistency per se, but one problem that arises when a
portable program ships its own implementation is that its implementation
sucks more than the system one. And that was the case with 1819ad327;
our compat/regex was worse than the system with respect to multi-byte
characters.

But yes, if your point is: "well, don't ship a crappy implementation",
then I agree that is a way to mitigate that problem. ;)

-Peff

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-07 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-01 15:18 grep: fix multibyte regex handling under macOS (1819ad327b7a1f19540a819813b70a0e8a7f798f) D. Ben Knoble
2023-02-01 16:09 ` demerphq
2023-02-01 16:21   ` D. Ben Knoble
2023-02-01 18:23     ` demerphq
2023-02-01 18:54       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-02-01 21:33         ` D. Ben Knoble
2023-02-01 21:34           ` D. Ben Knoble
2023-02-01 22:15           ` Junio C Hamano
2023-02-01 23:03   ` Jeff King
2023-02-02 16:22     ` demerphq
2023-02-02 20:49       ` D. Ben Knoble
2023-02-03 17:01       ` Jeff King
2023-02-03 21:56         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2023-02-04 11:17           ` Jeff King
2023-02-04 11:32         ` demerphq
2023-02-05 19:51           ` D. Ben Knoble
2023-02-07 18:23             ` Jeff King
2023-02-07 22:27               ` D. Ben Knoble
2023-02-07 18:19           ` Jeff King [this message]
2023-02-02 20:47     ` D. Ben Knoble
2023-02-03 16:55       ` Jeff King
2023-02-03 17:06         ` D. Ben Knoble

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